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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Cc: Chen Ridong <chenridong@huaweicloud.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, hannes@cmpxchg.org,
	yosryahmed@google.com, roman.gushchin@linux.dev,
	shakeel.butt@linux.dev, muchun.song@linux.dev, davidf@vimeo.com,
	mkoutny@suse.com, paulmck@kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	chenridong@huawei.com, wangweiyang2@huawei.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/oom_kill: revert watchdog reset in global OOM process
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2025 12:58:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z6yM1dycm5E7vfT0@tiehlicka> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bccc9e06-af8b-4a55-a69c-98596f1c1385@suse.cz>

On Wed 12-02-25 10:34:06, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> On 2/12/25 10:19, Chen Ridong wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On 2025/2/12 16:57, Michal Hocko wrote:
> >> On Wed 12-02-25 02:57:07, Chen Ridong wrote:
> >>> From: Chen Ridong <chenridong@huawei.com>
> >>>
> >>> Unlike memcg OOM, which is relatively common, global OOM events are rare
> >>> and typically indicate that the entire system is under severe memory
> >>> pressure. The commit ade81479c7dd ("memcg: fix soft lockup in the OOM
> >>> process") added the touch_softlockup_watchdog in the global OOM handler to
> >>> suppess the soft lockup issues. However, while this change can suppress
> >>> soft lockup warnings, it does not address RCU stalls, which can still be
> >>> detected and may cause unnecessary disturbances. Simply remove the
> >>> modification from the global OOM handler.
> >>>
> >>> Fixes: ade81479c7dd ("memcg: fix soft lockup in the OOM process")
> >> 
> >> But this is not really fixing anything, is it? While this doesn't
> >> address a potential RCU stall it doesn't address any actual problem.
> >> So why do we want to do this?
> >> 
> > 
> > 
> > [1]
> > https://lore.kernel.org/cgroups/0d9ea655-5c1a-4ba9-9eeb-b45d74cc68d0@huaweicloud.com/
> > 
> > As previously discussed, the work I have done on the global OOM is 'half
> > of the job'. Based on our discussions, I thought that it would be best
> > to abandon this approach for global OOM. Therefore, I am sending this
> > patch to revert the changes.
> > 
> > Or just leave it?
> 
> I suggested that part doesn't need to be in the patch, but if it was merged
> with it, we can just leave it there. Thanks.

Agreed!

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

      parent reply	other threads:[~2025-02-12 11:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-12  2:57 [PATCH] mm/oom_kill: revert watchdog reset in global OOM process Chen Ridong
2025-02-12  3:24 ` Chen Ridong
2025-02-12  8:57 ` Michal Hocko
2025-02-12  9:19   ` Chen Ridong
2025-02-12  9:34     ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-02-12  9:52       ` Chen Ridong
2025-02-12 11:58       ` Michal Hocko [this message]

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