From: "John B. Wyatt IV" <jwyatt@redhat.com>
To: Crystal Wood <crwood@redhat.com>
Cc: Clark Williams <williams@redhat.com>,
John Kacur <jkacur@redhat.com>,
linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org,
kernel-rts-sst <kernel-rts-sst@redhat.com>,
"John B. Wyatt IV" <sageofredondo@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] tuna: Add idle-state control functionality
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2025 13:23:06 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z7YhirJ4PIZtkSbi@thinkpad2024> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <988719a1f124a548dc5c93fbce88dceaaa322e28.camel@redhat.com>
On Thu, Feb 13, 2025 at 05:09:18PM -0600, Crystal Wood wrote:
> On Mon, 2025-01-27 at 20:45 -0500, John B. Wyatt IV wrote:
> > Allows Tuna to control cpu idle-state functionality on the system,
> > including querying, enabling, disabling of cpu idle-states to control
> > power usage or to test functionality.
> >
> > This requires cpupower, a utility in the Linux kernel repository and
> > the cpupower Python bindings added in Linux 6.12 to control cpu
> > idle-states. If cpupower is missing Tuna as a whole will continue to
> > function and idle-set functionality will error out.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: John B. Wyatt IV <jwyatt@redhat.com>
> > Signed-off-by: John B. Wyatt IV <sageofredondo@gmail.com>
> > ---
> > tuna-cmd.py | 33 +++++++-
> > tuna/cpupower.py | 202 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > 2 files changed, 233 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> > create mode 100755 tuna/cpupower.py
> >
> > diff --git a/tuna-cmd.py b/tuna-cmd.py
> > index d0323f5..81d0f48 100755
> > --- a/tuna-cmd.py
> > +++ b/tuna-cmd.py
> > @@ -25,6 +25,7 @@ from tuna import tuna, sysfs, utils
> > import logging
> > import time
> > import shutil
> > +import tuna.cpupower as cpw
>
> > def get_loglevel(level):
> > if level.isdigit() and int(level) in range(0,5):
> > @@ -115,8 +116,12 @@ def gen_parser():
> > "disable_perf": dict(action='store_true', help="Explicitly disable usage of perf in GUI for process view"),
> > "refresh": dict(default=2500, metavar='MSEC', type=int, help="Refresh the GUI every MSEC milliseconds"),
> > "priority": dict(default=(None, None), metavar="POLICY:RTPRIO", type=tuna.get_policy_and_rtprio, help="Set thread scheduler tunables: POLICY and RTPRIO"),
> > - "background": dict(action='store_true', help="Run command as background task")
> > - }
> > + "background": dict(action='store_true', help="Run command as background task"),
> > + "idle_state_disabled_status": dict(dest='idle_state_disabled_status', metavar='IDLESTATEDISABLEDSTATUS', type=int, help='Print if cpu idle state of the cpus in CPU-LIST is enabled or disabled. If CPU-LIST is not specified, default to all cpus.'),
> > + "idle_info": dict(dest='idle_info', action='store_const', const=True, help='Print general idle information on cpus in CPU-LIST. If CPU-LIST is not specified, default to all cpus.'),
> > + "disable_idle_state": dict(dest='disable_idle_state', metavar='IDLESTATEINDEX', type=int, help='Disable cpus in CPU-LIST\'s cpu idle (cpu sleep state). If CPU-LIST is not specified, default to all cpus.'),
> > + "enable_idle_state": dict(dest='enable_idle_state', metavar='IDLESTATEINDEX', type=int, help='Enable cpus in CPU-LIST\'s cpu idle (cpu sleep state). If CPU-LIST is not specified, default to all cpus.')
> > + }
> >
> > parser = HelpMessageParser(description="tuna - Application Tuning Program")
> >
> > @@ -147,6 +152,10 @@ def gen_parser():
> > show_irqs = subparser.add_parser('show_irqs', description='Show IRQ list', help='Show IRQ list')
> > show_configs = subparser.add_parser('show_configs', description='List preloaded profiles', help='List preloaded profiles')
> >
> > + idle_set = subparser.add_parser('idle-set',
> > + description='Query and set all idle states on a given CPU list. Requires libcpupower to be installed',
> > + help='Set all idle states on a given CPU-LIST.')
>
> idle_state would be a better name (or idle-state, but underscores are
> already used elsewhere...), since it can both set and get.
Being used elsewhere is why I used it. Nothing else to add.
>
> It also mostly operates on individual states (-i being the exception),
> not all at once. How about just:
>
> Manage CPU idle state disabling (requires libcpupower)
Will do.
>
> Also, don't forget to update the man page.
The man page will be in a future patch.
>
> > @@ -635,6 +651,19 @@ def main():
> > my_logger.addHandler(add_handler("DEBUG", tofile=False))
> > my_logger.info("Debug option set")
> >
> > + if args.command == 'idle-set':
> > + if not cpw.have_cpupower:
> > + print(f"Error: libcpupower bindings are not detected; need {cpw.cpupower_required_kernel} at a minimum.")
> > + sys.exit(1)
> > +
> > + if not args.cpu_list or args.cpu_list == []:
> > + args.cpu_list = cpw.Cpupower().get_all_cpu_list()
> > +
> > + my_cpupower = cpw.Cpupower(args.cpu_list)
> > + ret = my_cpupower.idle_state_handler(args)
> > + if ret > 0:
> > + sys.exit(ret)
>
> Why not just pass in cpu_list as is, and have cpw understand what
> an empty or absent list is? And it looks like it already partially
> does check for None... If the user specifically does something
> like --cpu '' should we really treat that as equivalent to not
> specifing --cpu? I don't see other commands doing this.
Will move the logic to the class.
I do not understand what you wrote for the second part with checking for
--cpu. Would you please rephase?
Note I am still learning argparse; if you know of a better way, an
example would be welcome. :-)
>
> Especially if you're going to delegate all other option parsing...
> Why is cpulist special? Just do something like:
>
> elif args.command == 'idle_state'
> cpw.idle_state(args)
>
> > if args.loglevel:
> > if not args.debug:
> > my_logger = setup_logging("my_logger")
>
> Why did you put the new command before log handling, rather than with
> all the other commands?
Will amend this. Looks like I misapplied a commit hunk.
>
> > diff --git a/tuna/cpupower.py b/tuna/cpupower.py
> > new file mode 100755
> > index 0000000..b09dc2f
> > --- /dev/null
> > +++ b/tuna/cpupower.py
> > @@ -0,0 +1,202 @@
> > +# Copyright (C) 2024 John B. Wyatt IV
> > +# SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0-only
> > +
> > +from typing import List
> > +import tuna.utils as utils
> > +
> > +cpupower_required_kernel = "6.12"
> > +have_cpupower = None
> > +
> > +
> > +import raw_pylibcpupower as cpw
>
> This is a bit confusing since you import this module as cpw
> elsewhere...
>
> Also, I got this even without trying to use the new functionality:
>
> $ ./tuna-cmd.py
> Traceback (most recent call last):
> File "/home/crwood/git/tuna/./tuna-cmd.py", line 28, in <module>
> import tuna.cpupower as cpw
> File "/home/crwood/git/tuna/tuna/cpupower.py", line 11, in <module>
> import raw_pylibcpupower as cpw
> ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'raw_pylibcpupower'
>
This was pointed out to me in a separate email. I have already fixed it
for the v2 I will send.
> Maybe something like:
>
> try:
> import raw_pylibcpupower as lcpw
> lcpw.cpufreq_get_available_frequencies(0)
> except:
> lcpw = None
pylint does not like a module to be dynamically imported this way, but I
found a workaround using importlib. pylint's messaging is very valuable
so I rather not have to disable it. It gives a warning every time cpw is
used otherwise.
>
> > + You must use have_cpupower variable to determine if the bindings were
> > + detected in your code."""
>
> Instead of doing to the class/module user what SWIG did to the binding
> user, why not just throw an exception if the binding is missing? This
> will automatically happen if lcpw is None, though you may want a
> friendlier error message in the main entry point.
Please see above.
>
> > + def __init__(self, cpulist=None):
> > + if cpulist == None:
> > + self.__cpulist = self.get_all_cpu_list()
> > + else:
> > + self.__cpulist = cpulist
> > +
> > + @classmethod
> > + def get_all_cpu_list(cls):
> > + return list(range(cls.get_idle_info()["all_cpus"]))
>
> Is this really idle-state-specific? Maybe just something like this
> in tuna/utils.py:
It is in the cpupower.py file, not an idle-state.py file. The only part
specific to idle-state is idle-set is the only user.
I was thinking of that, but that can be a future patch. I wanted this
implementation to be kept simple.
>
> def get_all_cpu_list():
> return list(range(get_nr_cpus()))
>
> We shouldn't need to get all the idle state information just to get a
> cpu list.
I mimicked the way cpupower reports this information. The information is
useful to report. I am not sure what your objection is.
>
> And all these class methods make me wonder why this is a class to begin
> with, rather than just module functions.
I plan to add future functionality down the road; a class would be
appropriate for handling this.
>
> > +
> > + @classmethod
> > + def get_idle_info(cls, cpu=0):
>
> Why is cpu 0 special?
cpupower itself for this functionality picks a random cpu thread to report.
I choose cpu 0 as a stopgap until I find/upstream better functionality to
handle this. I did not feel a random cpu was any better.
>
> > + idle_states, idle_states_amt = cls.get_idle_states(cpu)
> > + idle_states_list = []
> > + for idle_state in range(0, len(idle_states)):
> > + idle_states_list.append(
> > + {
> > + "CPU ID": cpu,
> > + "Idle State Name": idle_states[idle_state],
> > + "Flags/Description": cpw.cpuidle_state_desc(cpu, idle_state),
> > + "Latency": cpw.cpuidle_state_latency(cpu, idle_state),
> > + "Usage": cpw.cpuidle_state_usage(cpu, idle_state),
> > + "Duration": cpw.cpuidle_state_time(cpu, idle_state)
> > + }
> > + )
> > + idle_info = {
> > + "all_cpus": utils.get_nr_cpus(),
> > + "CPUidle-driver": cpw.cpuidle_get_driver(),
> > + "CPUidle-governor": cpw.cpuidle_get_governor(),
> > + "idle-states-count": idle_states_amt,
> > + "available-idle-states": idle_states,
> > + "cpu-states": idle_states_list
> > + }
> > + return idle_info
>
> This seems overly complicated. Why do you bundle all this stuff up
> just to extract it elsewhere? The call to get the data is simpler than
> the data structure lookup.
I do not understand. There are multiple calls to get the data.
As I said above, I was mimicking how cpupower reports this information.
I thought it would be useful to report. I wrap this data up into a
hashmap that I hope may be useful to export as json for scripting in the
future.
>
> > +
> > + @classmethod
> > + def print_idle_info(cls, cpu_list=[0]):
>
> The only thing that instantiating this class does is to store a cpu
> list, and here you're passing it into a class method instead...
Yes, please see above.
>
> > + def idle_state_handler(self, args) -> int:
> > + if args.idle_state_disabled_status != None:
> > + cstate_index = args.idle_state_disabled_status
> > + cstate_list, cstate_amt = self.get_idle_states(args.cpu_list[0]) # Assumption, that all cpus have the same idle state
>
> The API doesn't make that assumption, so why should we? Systems exist
> with heterogeneous CPUs... could be a reason to support looking up states
> by name, if and when there are systems we care about that actually have
> different cpuidle states.
Heterogeneous CPU support will come in a future patch once I have
upstreamed some more work.
Note that the libcpupower API offers a way to get the number of cores of a
system (get_cpu_topology()), but the code to do this is commented out (see
the missing curly brace?) and returns a 0 for the number of cores
currently.
https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.13.3/source/tools/power/cpupower/lib/cpupower.c#L206-L213
>
> And you don't need this lookup anyay -- libcpupower already does the
> bounds check, and you can get the name inside the loop.
I will check on that.
>
> > + if cstate_index < 0 or cstate_index >= cstate_amt:
> > + print(f"Invalid idle state range. Total for this cpu is {cstate_amt}")
> > + return 1
>
> "this cpu"?
Will amend.
>
> > + cstate_name = cstate_list[cstate_index]
> > + ret = self.is_disabled_idle_state(cstate_index)
> > + for i, e in enumerate(ret):
> > + match e:
> > + case 1:
> > + print(f"CPU: {args.cpu_list[i]} Idle state \"{cstate_name}\" is disabled.")
> > + case 0:
> > + print(f"CPU: {args.cpu_list[i]} Idle state \"{cstate_name}\" is enabled.")
> > + case -1:
> > + print(f"Idlestate not available")
> > + case -2:
> > + print(f"Disabling is not supported by the kernel")
> > + case _:
> > + print(f"Not documented: {e}")
> > + elif args.idle_info != None:
> > + self.print_idle_info(args.cpu_list)
> > + return 0
> > + elif args.disable_idle_state != None:
> > + cstate_index = args.disable_idle_state
> > + cstate_list, cstate_amt = self.get_idle_states(args.cpu_list[0]) # Assumption, that all cpus have the same idle state
> > + if cstate_index < 0 or cstate_index >= cstate_amt:
> > + print(f"Invalid idle state range. Total for this cpu is {cstate_amt}")
> > + return 1
> > + cstate_name = cstate_list[cstate_index]
> > + ret = self.disable_idle_state(cstate_index, 1)
> > + for i, e in enumerate(ret):
> > + match e:
> > + case 0:
> > + print(f"CPU: {args.cpu_list[i]} Idle state \"{cstate_name}\" is disabled.")
> > + case -1:
> > + print(f"Idlestate not available")
> > + case -2:
> > + print(f"Disabling is not supported by the kernel")
> > + case -3:
> > + print(f"No write access to disable/enable C-states: try using sudo")
> > + case _:
> > + print(f"Not documented: {e}")
> > + elif args.enable_idle_state != None:
> > + cstate_index = args.enable_idle_state
> > + cstate_list, cstate_amt = self.get_idle_states(args.cpu_list[0]) # Assumption, that all cpus have the same idle state
> > + if cstate_index < 0 or cstate_index >= cstate_amt:
> > + print(f"Invalid idle state range. Total for this cpu is {cstate_amt}")
> > + return 1
> > + cstate_name = cstate_list[cstate_index]
> > + ret = self.disable_idle_state(cstate_index, 0)
> > + for i, e in enumerate(ret):
> > + match e:
> > + case 0:
> > + print(f"CPU: {args.cpu_list[i]} Idle state \"{cstate_name}\" is enabled.")
> > + case -1:
> > + print(f"Idlestate not available")
> > + case -2:
> > + print(f"Disabling is not supported by the kernel")
> > + case -3:
> > + print(f"No write access to disable/enable C-states: try using sudo")
> > + case _:
> > + print(f"Not documented: {e}")
>
> Factor out the error messages so they're not duplicated between
> suboperations. Actually, pretty much the whole thing is duplicated between
> enable/disable...
Will do.
>
> Do we want to print anything at all on success? It looks like tuna
> generally follows the Unix philosophy of not doing so.
Good point. That will also make it easier to script.
>
> And the error messages are a bit vague... imagine running a script and
> something deep inside it spits out "Disabling is not supported by the
> kernel". Disabling what?
>
> > + else:
> > + print(args)
> > + print("idle-set error: you should not get here!")
>
> "you should not get here" is not a useful error message... jut throw
> an exception.
Will amend.
--
Sincerely,
John Wyatt
Software Engineer, Core Kernel
Red Hat
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-02-19 18:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-01-28 1:45 [PATCH 0/2] Add cpupower idle-state functionality John B. Wyatt IV
2025-01-28 1:45 ` [PATCH 1/2] tuna: extract cpu and nics determination code into a utils.py file John B. Wyatt IV
2025-01-28 1:45 ` [PATCH 2/2] tuna: Add idle-state control functionality John B. Wyatt IV
2025-02-13 23:09 ` Crystal Wood
2025-02-19 18:23 ` John B. Wyatt IV [this message]
2025-02-10 19:50 ` [PATCH 0/2] Add cpupower idle-state functionality John Kacur
2025-02-12 20:53 ` Crystal Wood
2025-02-12 21:24 ` John B. Wyatt IV
2025-02-13 17:05 ` John Kacur
2025-02-13 18:45 ` Crystal Wood
2025-02-19 18:23 ` John B. Wyatt IV
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