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From: Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Cc: "Alexey Gladkov (Intel)" <alexey.gladkov@intel.com>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Joerg Roedel <jroedel@suse.de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	x86@kernel.org, hpa@zytor.com,
	Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>,
	Nikunj A Dadhania <nikunj@amd.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Larry.Dewey@amd.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/sev: Make SEV_STATUS available via SYSFS
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2025 13:46:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z87fFRbg9V_x3u1v@8bytes.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250310110202.GEZ87GqgEJyhJtde0I@fat_crate.local>

On Mon, Mar 10, 2025 at 12:02:02PM +0100, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> ... or you can drop the "common" thing and use only the "coco":
>
> /sys/hypervisor/coco

Common is less likely to be mistaken for a hypervisor name than coco.
But if there is agreement on that naming I can live with that.

> and then you kinda denote that while it is the hypervisor hierarchy, it is
> related to confidential computing so it could be consumed by guests too.
> 
> But I still don't see why we can't simply do
> 
> /sys/guest
> 
> It is just another sysfs node. Or is there a particular reason to stick to
> /sys/hypervisor?

/sys/hypervisor/ has the best-fitting name imho. Unfortunately it is
taken in a very non-generic way by Xen, with no clean way to make it
more generic without breaking Xen or increase the mess. So /sys/guest
might be a viable alternative. /sys/guest/xen/ could then link to
/sys/hypervisor/.

> And putting it in sysfs still doesn't solve the human-readable aspect: dumping
> a raw SEV_STATUS might as well be simply reading the MSR and if someone wants
> to read it, someone would need to go count bits. Imagine the following
> scenario: a user reports a bug, you say, ok, send me
> 
> /sys/hypervisor/coco/sev/sev_status
> 
> you get it and you dump it through your script or start looking at the bits.
> Yeah, we all have scripts for that but it ain't too user-friendly...

Right, it is not really a good human-readable interface. On the other
side SYSFS was always an interface targeted more towards tooling than
humans, therefore the one-datum-per-file rule. The use-case I want to
target with this patch is also tooling-related.

We can add a human-readable version of the coco-features somewhere else,
if wanted.  You already suggested /proc/cpuinfo, which in itself is
designed for direct human consumption.

Regards,

	Joerg

  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-10 12:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-05 10:52 [PATCH] x86/sev: Make SEV_STATUS available via SYSFS Joerg Roedel
2025-03-05 11:11 ` [tip: x86/sev] " tip-bot2 for Joerg Roedel
2025-03-05 11:12 ` [PATCH] " Borislav Petkov
2025-03-05 11:26   ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-05 11:31     ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-05 11:35       ` Juergen Gross
2025-03-05 11:41         ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-05 11:48           ` Jürgen Groß
2025-03-05 11:53             ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-05 11:42       ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-05 11:50         ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-05 13:56           ` Joerg Roedel
2025-03-05 15:37             ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-05 16:37               ` Dave Hansen
2025-03-05 16:40               ` Dave Hansen
2025-03-05 16:55                 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-05 17:09                   ` Dave Hansen
2025-03-05 17:51                     ` Joerg Roedel
2025-03-05 20:07                     ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-06  8:01                 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-03-06  8:38                   ` Joerg Roedel
2025-03-06 10:31                     ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-06 13:36                       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-03-06 13:56                         ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-06 10:37                     ` Alexey Gladkov (Intel)
2025-03-10 10:28                       ` Joerg Roedel
2025-03-10 11:02                         ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-10 12:46                           ` Joerg Roedel [this message]
2025-03-10 13:36                             ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-10 11:24                         ` Alexey Gladkov
2025-03-10 12:28                           ` Juergen Gross
2025-03-10 12:35                             ` Joerg Roedel
2025-03-10 12:49                               ` Juergen Gross
2025-03-10 13:38                                 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-10 14:39                                   ` Tom Lendacky
2025-03-10 14:50                                   ` Alexey Gladkov
2025-03-10 15:11                                     ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-10 15:33                                       ` Jürgen Groß
2025-03-10 15:41                                         ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-10 15:50                                           ` Alexey Gladkov
2025-03-10 15:43                                         ` Alexey Gladkov
2025-03-10 15:52                                           ` Juergen Gross
2025-03-10 15:55                                             ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-10 16:00                                               ` Juergen Gross
2025-03-10 16:06                                                 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-10 16:23                                                   ` Jürgen Groß
2025-03-10 16:05                                             ` Alexey Gladkov
2025-03-11  9:43                                           ` Joerg Roedel
2025-03-11 10:22                                             ` Jürgen Groß
2025-03-11 11:07                                               ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-11 11:14                                                 ` Juergen Gross
2025-03-11 18:24                                                 ` Alexey Gladkov
2025-03-11 18:40                                                   ` Joerg Roedel
2025-03-11 20:37                                                     ` Alexey Gladkov
2025-03-12  7:19                                                     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-03-12  8:23                                                       ` Joerg Roedel
2025-03-12  8:48                                                         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-03-12  9:07                                                           ` Joerg Roedel
2025-03-12 10:59                                                             ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-03-12 11:44                                                               ` Joerg Roedel
2025-03-11 18:13                                             ` Alexey Gladkov
2025-03-05 13:50 ` Joerg Roedel

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