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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Juntong Deng <juntong.deng@outlook.com>
Cc: ast@kernel.org, daniel@iogearbox.net, john.fastabend@gmail.com,
	andrii@kernel.org, martin.lau@linux.dev, eddyz87@gmail.com,
	song@kernel.org, yonghong.song@linux.dev, kpsingh@kernel.org,
	sdf@fomichev.me, haoluo@google.com, jolsa@kernel.org,
	memxor@gmail.com, void@manifault.com, arighi@nvidia.com,
	changwoo@igalia.com, bpf@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH sched_ext/for-6.15 v3 3/5] sched_ext: Add scx_kfunc_ids_ops_context_sensitive for unified filtering of context-sensitive SCX kfuncs
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2025 11:20:33 -1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z8Ioof577rvSJxrD@slm.duckdns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AM6PR03MB50809C9EB32C9705DF6EA14299CC2@AM6PR03MB5080.eurprd03.prod.outlook.com>

Hello,

On Fri, Feb 28, 2025 at 06:42:11PM +0000, Juntong Deng wrote:
> > > Return 0 means allowed. So kfuncs in scx_kfunc_ids_unlocked can be
> > > called by other struct_ops programs.
> > 
> > Hmm... would that mean a non-sched_ext bpf prog would be able to call e.g.
> > scx_bpf_dsq_insert()?
> 
> For other struct_ops programs, yes, in the current logic,
> when prog->aux->st_ops != &bpf_sched_ext_ops, all calls are allowed.
> 
> This may seem a bit weird, but the reason I did it is that in other
> struct_ops programs, the meaning of member_off changes, so the logic
> that follows makes no sense at all.
> 
> Of course, we can change this, and ideally there would be some groupings
> (kfunc id set) that declare which kfunc can be called by other
> struct_ops programs and which cannot.

Other than any and unlocked, I don't think other bpf struct ops should be
able to call SCX kfuncs. They all assume rq lock to be held which wouldn't
be true for other struct_ops after all.

...
> > I see, scx_dsq_move_*() are in both groups, so it should be fine. I'm not
> > fully sure the groupings are the actually implemented filtering are in sync.
> > They are intended to be but the grouping didn't really matter in the
> > previous implementation. So, they need to be carefully audited.
> 
> After you audit the current groupings of scx kfuncs, please tell me how
> you would like to change the current groupings.

Yeah, I'll go over them but after all, we need to ensure that the behavior
currently implemented by scx_kf_allowed*() matches what the new code does,
so I'd appreciate if you can go over with that in mind too. This is kinda
confusing so we can definitely use more eyes.

> > Right, the coverage there isn't perfect. Testing all conditions would be too
> > much but it'd be nice to have a test case which at least confirms that all
> > allowed cases verify successfully.
> 
> Yes, we can add a simple test case for each operation that is not
> SCX_OPS_KF_ANY.

That'd be great. Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-28 21:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-26 19:24 [PATCH sched_ext/for-6.15 v3 0/5] bpf, sched_ext: Make kfunc filters support struct_ops context to reduce runtime overhead Juntong Deng
2025-02-26 19:28 ` [PATCH sched_ext/for-6.15 v3 1/5] bpf: Add struct_ops context information to struct bpf_prog_aux Juntong Deng
2025-02-26 19:28 ` [PATCH sched_ext/for-6.15 v3 2/5] sched_ext: Declare context-sensitive kfunc groups that can be used by different SCX operations Juntong Deng
2025-02-27 19:19   ` Tejun Heo
2025-02-28 21:57   ` Tejun Heo
2025-03-03 21:12     ` Juntong Deng
2025-03-04 18:00       ` Tejun Heo
2025-03-07  0:07         ` Juntong Deng
2025-02-26 19:28 ` [PATCH sched_ext/for-6.15 v3 3/5] sched_ext: Add scx_kfunc_ids_ops_context_sensitive for unified filtering of context-sensitive SCX kfuncs Juntong Deng
2025-02-27 20:25   ` Tejun Heo
2025-02-27 21:23     ` Juntong Deng
2025-02-27 21:32       ` Tejun Heo
2025-02-28  2:34         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-02-28 21:31           ` Tejun Heo
2025-02-28 23:06             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-02-28 18:42         ` Juntong Deng
2025-02-28 21:20           ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2025-02-28  2:38       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-02-28 21:14         ` Tejun Heo
2025-02-26 19:28 ` [PATCH sched_ext/for-6.15 v3 4/5] sched_ext: Removed mask-based runtime restrictions on calling kfuncs in different contexts Juntong Deng
2025-02-27 16:24   ` Andrea Righi
2025-02-27 16:49     ` Juntong Deng
2025-02-26 19:28 ` [PATCH sched_ext/for-6.15 v3 5/5] selftests/sched_ext: Update enq_select_cpu_fails to adapt to struct_ops context filter Juntong Deng

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