From: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>
To: Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com>
Cc: "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@kernel.org>,
"Thomas Weißschuh" <thomas.weissschuh@linutronix.de>,
"Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>,
"Andrew Lunn" <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
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"Tianfei Zhang" <tianfei.zhang@intel.com>,
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"Vadim Fedorenko" <vadim.fedorenko@linux.dev>,
"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
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"Philipp Stanner" <pstanner@redhat.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] RFC: ptp: add comment about register access race
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2025 09:50:01 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z8VfKYMGEKhvluJV@smile.fi.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z8TFrPv1oajA3H4V@hoboy.vegasvil.org>
On Sun, Mar 02, 2025 at 12:55:08PM -0800, Richard Cochran wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 27, 2025 at 05:23:48PM +0200, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 27, 2025 at 03:17:27PM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > > From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
> > >
> > > While reviewing a patch to the ioread64_hi_lo() helpers, I noticed
> > > that there are several PTP drivers that use multiple register reads
> > > to access a 64-bit hardware register in a racy way.
> > >
> > > There are usually safe ways of doing this, but at least these four
> > > drivers do that. A third register read obviously makes the hardware
> > > access 50% slower. If the low word counds nanoseconds and a single
> > > register read takes on the order of 1µs, the resulting value is
> > > wrong in one of 4 million cases, which is pretty rare but common
> > > enough that it would be observed in practice.
>
> If the hardware does NOT latch the registers together, then the driver must do:
>
> 1. hi1 = read hi
> 2. low = read lo
> 3. hi2 = read h1
> 4. if (hi2 == hi1 return (hi1 << 32) | low;
> 5. goto step 1.
>
> This for correctness, and correctness > performance.
Right.
> > > Sorry I hadn't sent this out as a proper patch so far. Any ideas
> > > what we should do here?
>
> Need to have driver authors check the data sheet because ...
>
> > Actually this reminds me one of the discussion where it was some interesting
> > HW design that latches the value on the first read of _low_ part (IIRC), but
> > I might be mistaken with the details.
> >
> > That said, it's from HW to HW, it might be race-less in some cases.
>
> ... of this.
Perhaps it's still good to have a comment, but rephrase it that the code is
questionable depending on the HW behaviour that needs to be checked.
--
With Best Regards,
Andy Shevchenko
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-03-03 7:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-02-27 14:17 [PATCH] RFC: ptp: add comment about register access race Arnd Bergmann
2025-02-27 15:23 ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-03-02 20:55 ` Richard Cochran
2025-03-03 7:50 ` Andy Shevchenko [this message]
2025-03-04 4:09 ` Richard Cochran
2025-03-04 8:24 ` Arnd Bergmann
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