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From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Wookey <wookey@wookware.org>
Cc: "Paul Eggert" <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>,
	"Bruno Haible" <bruno@clisp.org>,
	"Richard W.M. Jones" <rjones@redhat.com>,
	"Demi Marie Obenour" <demiobenour@gmail.com>,
	"Eric Blake" <eblake@redhat.com>, "Sam James" <sam@gentoo.org>,
	"Carlos O'Donell via Libc-alpha" <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
	autoconf@gnu.org, c-std-porting@lists.linux.dev,
	"Zack Weinberg" <zack@owlfolio.org>,
	"David Seifert" <soap@gentoo.org>,
	"Gentoo Toolchain" <toolchain@gentoo.org>,
	"Arsen Arsenović" <arsen@aarsen.me>,
	dueno@redhat.com
Subject: Re: On time64 and Large File Support
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2023 14:14:18 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZAIAugEcITc2wSon@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230303140135.GX12440@mail.wookware.org>

On Fri, Mar 03, 2023 at 02:01:35PM +0000, Wookey wrote:
> On 2023-03-02 21:50 -0800, Paul Eggert wrote:
> > On 3/2/23 19:30, Wookey wrote:
> 
> > > Gnulib automatically changing the ABI for packages that use it
> > > (and have LFS already enabled) is deeply unhelpful...
> 
> > This change to Gnulib was reverted in December[1] and that propagated into
> > bleeding-edge GnuTLS last month[2]. So if I understand things correctly the
> > next GnuTLS release will go back to the old way of doing things,
> 
> OK. gnulib doesn't seem to have releases as such (last release v0.1 9
> years ago), and is normally used embedded in the upstream source like
> autotools (right?). What is a good test for whether a package/upstream
> is affected by this 'gnulib might have turned 64-bit time' issue? Is
> there an embedded gnulib version one can check, or does one have to look
> at dates of the m4/year2038.m4 and m4/largefile.m4 files in the source?

Looks like you can probably detect it from the configure --help
output. Based on this commit:

> > [1]: https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/gnulib.git/commit/?id=7c7c8a519f3892f6f5b30a1c6b22796ab314a45c

The original problematic impl has this:

- AC_ARG_ENABLE([year2038],
-   [  --disable-year2038      omit support for timestamps past the year 2038])

the new code which does not enable 2038 by default has

+[AC_ARG_ENABLE([year2038],
+  m4_provide_if([AC_SYS_YEAR2038],
+    [AS_HELP_STRING([--disable-year2038],
+      [do not support timestamps after 2038])],
+    [AS_HELP_STRING([--enable-year2038],
+      [support timestamps after 2038])]))])

So if

  configure --help | grep disable-year2038

says 'omit support for timestamps past the year 2038', the app is
suspect and might face ABI compat issues.

With regards,
Daniel
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  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-03 14:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-11  8:38 On time64 and Large File Support Sam James
2022-11-11  9:16 ` Paul Eggert
2022-11-11  9:19   ` Sam James
2022-11-11 23:48   ` Joseph Myers
2022-11-11  9:19 ` Florian Weimer
2022-11-11  9:27   ` Sam James
2022-11-11 11:38     ` Florian Weimer
2022-11-11 20:12       ` Paul Eggert
2022-11-12  2:20     ` Zack Weinberg
2022-11-12  3:57       ` Sam James
2022-11-12 14:16         ` Zack Weinberg
2022-11-12 17:41           ` Paul Eggert
2022-11-12 18:50             ` Bruno Haible
2022-11-12 19:15               ` Paul Eggert
2022-11-12 20:23                 ` Wookey
2022-11-12 20:54                   ` Russ Allbery
2022-11-12 21:31                   ` Paul Eggert
     [not found]                     ` <951fc967-042c-4978-bd78-8bc4c8706b18@app.fastmail.com>
2022-11-13  5:11                       ` Zack Weinberg
2022-11-15  5:06                         ` Sam James
2022-12-25 19:19                         ` Paul Eggert
2022-12-29  4:02                           ` Zack Weinberg
2022-12-30 22:12                             ` Paul Eggert
2022-12-30 22:20                               ` Sam James
2023-01-20  9:56                               ` Paul Eggert
2023-02-02  6:43                                 ` Sam James
2023-02-02 23:15                                   ` time for Autoconf 2.72 (was: On time64 and Large File Support) Paul Eggert
2023-02-02 23:17                                     ` Zack Weinberg
2023-02-03  5:49                                       ` Sam James
2023-02-03 12:43                                         ` time for Autoconf 2.72 Bruno Haible
     [not found]                                         ` <CAObJKZp2CCRR46-X9NYaRES7eDCVyoJ0xv=u4aSG2KeQv4vtjA@mail.gmail.com>
2023-02-27  2:30                                           ` time for Autoconf 2.72 (was: On time64 and Large File Support) Sam James
2023-03-17 23:47                                             ` Sam James
2023-03-18  0:59                                               ` Paul Eggert
2023-03-18  2:08                                                 ` Jim Meyering
2023-03-18  2:52                                                   ` Paul Eggert
2023-03-19  0:30                                                     ` Jim Meyering
2023-03-19  0:57                                                       ` Sam James
2022-11-15  5:09                     ` On time64 and Large File Support Sam James
2022-11-12 18:19       ` Paul Eggert
2022-11-11  9:40   ` Andreas K. Huettel
2022-11-11 11:30     ` Florian Weimer
2022-11-11 19:01       ` Andreas K. Huettel
2022-11-11 19:28         ` Palmer Dabbelt
2022-11-11  9:46   ` Paul Eggert
2022-11-11 11:22     ` Florian Weimer
2022-11-11 19:56       ` Paul Eggert
2022-11-12  4:20   ` Wookey
2022-11-12  4:28     ` Sam James
2022-11-12  4:56       ` Wookey
2022-11-12  4:59         ` Sam James
2022-11-12 18:33     ` Paul Eggert
2022-11-14  8:39   ` Adam Sampson
2022-11-14 11:47     ` Florian Weimer
2022-11-14 20:26     ` Arsen Arsenović
2022-11-14 20:52       ` Florian Weimer
2022-11-15  7:39         ` Arsen Arsenović
2022-11-11 10:25 ` Richard Purdie
2023-03-01 22:38 ` Eric Blake
2023-03-02  0:29   ` Demi Marie Obenour
2023-03-02  9:04     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-03-02 10:28       ` Paul Eggert
2023-03-02 10:38         ` Andreas Schwab
2023-03-03  5:46           ` Paul Eggert
2023-03-06  8:58             ` Andreas Schwab
2023-03-06 10:19               ` Florian Weimer
2023-03-02 11:02         ` Richard W.M. Jones
2023-03-02 12:17           ` Bruno Haible
2023-03-02 13:24             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-03-03  3:30               ` Wookey
2023-03-03  5:50                 ` Paul Eggert
2023-03-03 14:01                   ` Wookey
2023-03-03 14:14                     ` Daniel P. Berrangé [this message]
2023-03-03 23:21             ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-03-03 11:49           ` Florian Weimer
2023-03-03 12:39             ` Richard W.M. Jones
2023-03-02  8:30   ` Richard W.M. Jones

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