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From: "Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>
To: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
Cc: Volodymyr Babchuk <Volodymyr_Babchuk@epam.com>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org" <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>, Wei Liu <wl@xen.org>,
	George Dunlap <george.dunlap@citrix.com>,
	Julien Grall <julien@xen.org>,
	Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	Paul Durrant <paul@xen.org>, Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/6] xen: pci: introduce reference counting for pdev
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2023 12:51:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZD0krtCOrEwiKMFP@Air-de-Roger> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <963624f1-a36a-5d48-c34f-552d9d6c4950@suse.com>

On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 12:34:31PM +0200, Jan Beulich wrote:
> On 17.04.2023 12:17, Roger Pau Monné wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 14, 2023 at 01:30:39AM +0000, Volodymyr Babchuk wrote:
> >> Above I have proposed another view on this. I hope, it will work for
> >> you. Just to reiterate, idea is to allow "harmless" refcounts to be left
> >> after returning from pci_remove_device(). By "harmless" I mean that
> >> owners of those refcounts will not try to access the physical PCI
> >> device if pci_remove_device() is already finished.
> > 
> > I'm not strictly a maintainer of this piece code, albeit I have an
> > opinion.  I will like to also hear Jans opinion, since he is the
> > maintainer.
> 
> I'm afraid I can't really appreciate the term "harmless refcounts". Whoever
> holds a ref is entitled to access the device. As stated before, I see only
> two ways of getting things consistent: Either pci_remove_device() is
> invoked upon dropping of the last ref,

With this approach, what would be the implementation of
PHYSDEVOP_manage_pci_remove?  Would it just check whether the pdev
exist and either return 0 or -EBUSY?

> or it checks that it is dropping the
> last one. The former looks architecturally cleaner to me, but I can accept
> that moving there might be more of a change, so wouldn't object to going
> the latter route.

One of my concerns is what is expected of PHYSDEVOP_manage_pci_remove,
I don't think it's expected for PHYSDEVOP_manage_pci_remove to return
0 while there are users inside the hypervisor still holding a
reference to the pdev.

Thanks, Roger.


  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-17 10:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-14 20:56 [PATCH v3 0/6] vpci: first series in preparation for vpci on ARM Volodymyr Babchuk
2023-03-14 20:56 ` [PATCH v3 2/6] xen: pci: introduce reference counting for pdev Volodymyr Babchuk
2023-03-16 16:16   ` Roger Pau Monné
2023-03-29  9:55     ` Jan Beulich
2023-03-29 10:48       ` Roger Pau Monné
2023-03-29 11:58         ` Jan Beulich
2023-04-11 23:41     ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2023-04-12  9:13       ` Roger Pau Monné
2023-04-12 21:54         ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2023-04-13 15:00           ` Roger Pau Monné
2023-04-14  1:30             ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2023-04-17 10:17               ` Roger Pau Monné
2023-04-17 10:34                 ` Jan Beulich
2023-04-17 10:51                   ` Roger Pau Monné [this message]
2023-04-17 11:02                     ` Jan Beulich
2023-04-21 11:00                     ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2023-04-21 12:24                       ` Jan Beulich
2023-04-21 13:02                         ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2023-04-21 13:10                       ` Roger Pau Monné
2023-04-21 14:13                         ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2023-04-24  7:46                           ` Jan Beulich
2023-04-24 14:15                             ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2023-04-24 14:27                               ` Jan Beulich
2023-03-29 10:04   ` Jan Beulich
2023-03-14 20:56 ` [PATCH v3 1/6] xen: add reference counter support Volodymyr Babchuk
2023-03-16 13:54   ` Roger Pau Monné
2023-03-16 14:03     ` Jan Beulich
2023-03-16 16:21       ` Roger Pau Monné
2023-04-11 22:27     ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2023-04-12 10:12       ` Roger Pau Monné
2023-03-16 16:19   ` Roger Pau Monné
2023-03-16 16:32     ` Jan Beulich
2023-03-16 16:39       ` Roger Pau Monné
2023-03-16 16:43         ` Jan Beulich
2023-03-16 16:48           ` Roger Pau Monné
2023-03-16 16:56             ` Jan Beulich
2023-03-17 10:05               ` Roger Pau Monné
2023-03-17 14:46                 ` Jan Beulich
2023-03-16 17:01   ` Jan Beulich
2023-04-11 22:38     ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2023-04-17  6:47       ` Jan Beulich
2023-03-14 20:56 ` [PATCH v3 5/6] vpci: use reference counter to protect vpci state Volodymyr Babchuk
2023-03-17  8:43   ` Roger Pau Monné
2023-03-29  9:31     ` Jan Beulich
2023-03-14 20:56 ` [PATCH v3 4/6] vpci: restrict unhandled read/write operations for guests Volodymyr Babchuk
2023-03-17  8:37   ` Roger Pau Monné
2023-03-14 20:56 ` [PATCH v3 6/6] xen: pci: print reference counter when dumping pci_devs Volodymyr Babchuk
2023-03-17  8:46   ` Roger Pau Monné
2023-03-14 20:56 ` [PATCH v3 3/6] vpci: crash domain if we wasn't able to (un) map vPCI regions Volodymyr Babchuk
2023-03-16 16:32   ` Roger Pau Monné

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