From: Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>
To: Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de>
Cc: netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH nf-next 0/3] netfilter: nf_tables: reject loads from uninitialized registers
Date: Wed, 10 May 2023 09:56:48 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZFtOQEZmKEZ2VHPE@calendula> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230507112254.GA18570@breakpoint.cc>
On Sun, May 07, 2023 at 01:22:54PM +0200, Florian Westphal wrote:
> Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org> wrote:
> > On Fri, May 05, 2023 at 04:51:13PM +0200, Florian Westphal wrote:
> > > Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org> wrote:
> > > > On Fri, May 05, 2023 at 01:16:53PM +0200, Florian Westphal wrote:
> > > > > Keep a per-rule bitmask that tracks registers that have seen a store,
> > > > > then reject loads when the accessed registers haven't been flagged.
> > > > >
> > > > > This changes uabi contract, because we previously allowed this.
> > > > > Neither nftables nor iptables-nft create such rules.
> > > > >
> > > > > In case there is breakage, we could insert an 'store 0 to x'
> > > > > immediate expression into the ruleset automatically, but this
> > > > > isn't done here.
> > > > >
> > > > > Let me know if you think the "refuse" approach is too risky.
> > > >
> > > > Might the NFT_BREAK case defeat this approach? Sequence is:
> > > >
> > > > 1) expression that writes on register hits NFT_BREAK (nothing is written)
> > > > 2) expression that read from register, it reads uninitialized data.
> > > >
> > > > From ruleset load step, we cannot know if the write fails, because it
> > > > is subject to NFT_BREAK.
> > >
> > > Yes, but its irrelevant: If 1) issues NFT_BREAK, 2) won't execute.
> >
> > And register tracking is done per rule, given context is per rule too,
> > good.
> >
> > I wonder if it is worth to move the bitmask away from nft_ctx, given
> > this structure is stored in the struct nft_trans, hence increasing the
> > size of this object which is not required at a later state, maybe
> > there is a need for a new container structure that store data useful
> > for the initial preparation step of the commit protocol.
>
> Hmm, this will get messy.
>
> I only see two alternatives:
>
> - place the bitmask in the pernet structure.
> - add struct nft_expr_ctx as a container structure, which has
> nft_ctx as first member and the bitmask as second member, to
> be used for NEWRULE and NEWSETELEM instead of nft_ctx.
Can the 'level' field be moved to this nft_expr_ctx structure? This
field is only used from the preparation phase (not in the commit
phase).
Probably we need to rename nft_ctx to nft_trans_ctx, so it contains
the fields that are needed from the commit phase. Then, re-add a
nft_ctx again which contains nft_trans_ctx at the beginning, then the
register bitmap and the level field. Thus, any future fields only
required by preparation phase only will go in nft_ctx, and fields that
are specifically are set up from preparation phase and consumed from
commit step go in nft_trans_ctx.
It is a bit of churn, but it is probably good to tidy up this for
future extensions?
Let me know, thanks.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-05-10 7:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-05-05 11:16 [PATCH nf-next 0/3] netfilter: nf_tables: reject loads from uninitialized registers Florian Westphal
2023-05-05 11:16 ` [PATCH nf-next 1/3] netfilter: nf_tables: pass context structure to nft_parse_register_load Florian Westphal
2023-05-05 11:16 ` [PATCH nf-next 2/3] netfilter: nf_tables: validate register loads never access unitialised registers Florian Westphal
2023-05-30 23:49 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-05-31 9:51 ` Florian Westphal
2023-05-05 11:16 ` [PATCH nf-next 3/3] netfilter: nf_tables: don't initialize registers in nft_do_chain() Florian Westphal
2023-05-05 13:16 ` [PATCH nf-next 0/3] netfilter: nf_tables: reject loads from uninitialized registers Phil Sutter
2023-05-05 13:46 ` Florian Westphal
2023-05-05 14:14 ` Phil Sutter
2023-05-05 14:32 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-05-05 14:51 ` Florian Westphal
2023-05-05 15:34 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-05-07 11:22 ` Florian Westphal
2023-05-10 7:56 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso [this message]
2023-05-10 8:06 ` Florian Westphal
2023-05-10 15:46 ` Florian Westphal
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