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From: Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
	Hyeonggon Yoo <42.hyeyoo@gmail.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lstoakes@gmail.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	"Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	"Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
	Oleksiy Avramchenko <oleksiy.avramchenko@sony.com>,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/9] Mitigate a vmap lock contention
Date: Thu, 25 May 2023 12:20:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZG82ch1AdrAbpkJ6@pc636> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZG6IKE7yNEkJhge+@dread.disaster.area>

On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 07:56:56AM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
> On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 11:50:12AM +0200, Uladzislau Rezki wrote:
> > On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 03:04:28AM +0900, Hyeonggon Yoo wrote:
> > > On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 05:12:30PM +0200, Uladzislau Rezki wrote:
> > > And I would like to ask some side questions:
> > > 
> > > 1. Is vm_[un]map_ram() API still worth with this patchset?
> > > 
> > It is up to community to decide. As i see XFS needs it also. Maybe in
> > the future it can be removed(who knows). If the vmalloc code itself can
> > deliver such performance as vm_map* APIs.
> 
> vm_map* APIs cannot be replaced with vmalloc, they cover a very
> different use case.  i.e.  vmalloc allocates mapped memory,
> vm_map_ram() maps allocated memory....
> 
> > vm_map_ram() and friends interface was added because of vmalloc drawbacks.
> 
> No. vm_map*() were scalability improvements added in 2009 to replace
> on vmap() and vunmap() to avoid global lock contention in the vmap
> allocator that XFS had been working around for years with it's own
> internal vmap cache....
> 
> commit 95f8e302c04c0b0c6de35ab399a5551605eeb006
> Author: Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>
> Date:   Tue Jan 6 14:43:09 2009 +1100
> 
>     [XFS] use scalable vmap API
>     
>     Implement XFS's large buffer support with the new vmap APIs. See the vmap
>     rewrite (db64fe02) for some numbers. The biggest improvement that comes from
>     using the new APIs is avoiding the global KVA allocation lock on every call.
>     
>     Signed-off-by: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
>     Reviewed-by: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
>     Signed-off-by: Lachlan McIlroy <lachlan@sgi.com>
> 
> vmap/vunmap() themselves were introduce in 2.5.32 (2002) and before
> that XFS was using remap_page_array() and vfree() in exactly the
> same way it uses vm_map_ram() and vm_unmap_ram() today....
> 
> XFS has a long, long history of causing virtual memory allocator
> scalability and contention problems. As you can see, this isn't our
> first rodeo...
> 
Let me be more specific, sorry it looks like there is misunderstanding.
I am talking about removing of vb_alloc()/vb_free() per-cpu stuff. If
alloc_vmap_area() gives same performance:

diff --git a/mm/vmalloc.c b/mm/vmalloc.c
index d50c551592fc..a1687bbdad30 100644
--- a/mm/vmalloc.c
+++ b/mm/vmalloc.c
@@ -2503,12 +2503,6 @@ void vm_unmap_ram(const void *mem, unsigned int count)

        kasan_poison_vmalloc(mem, size);

-       if (likely(count <= VMAP_MAX_ALLOC)) {
-               debug_check_no_locks_freed(mem, size);
-               vb_free(addr, size);
-               return;
-       }
-
        va = find_unlink_vmap_area(addr);
        if (WARN_ON_ONCE(!va))
                return;
@@ -2539,12 +2533,6 @@ void *vm_map_ram(struct page **pages, unsigned int count, int node)
        unsigned long addr;
        void *mem;

-       if (likely(count <= VMAP_MAX_ALLOC)) {
-               mem = vb_alloc(size, GFP_KERNEL);
-               if (IS_ERR(mem))
-                       return NULL;
-               addr = (unsigned long)mem;
-       } else {
                struct vmap_area *va;
                va = alloc_vmap_area(size, PAGE_SIZE,
                                VMALLOC_START, VMALLOC_END,
@@ -2554,7 +2542,6 @@ void *vm_map_ram(struct page **pages, unsigned int count, int node)

                addr = va->va_start;
                mem = (void *)addr;
-       }

        if (vmap_pages_range(addr, addr + size, PAGE_KERNEL,
                                pages, PAGE_SHIFT) < 0) {


+ other related parts.

--
Uladzislau Rezki

      parent reply	other threads:[~2023-05-25 10:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-22 11:08 [PATCH 0/9] Mitigate a vmap lock contention Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2023-05-22 11:08 ` [PATCH 1/9] mm: vmalloc: Add va_alloc() helper Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2023-05-23  6:05   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-05-23  9:57     ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-05-27 19:55   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-05-22 11:08 ` [PATCH 2/9] mm: vmalloc: Rename adjust_va_to_fit_type() function Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2023-05-23  6:06   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-05-23 10:01     ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-05-23 17:24   ` Liam R. Howlett
2023-05-24 11:51     ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-05-27 21:50   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-05-29 20:37     ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-05-22 11:08 ` [PATCH 3/9] mm: vmalloc: Move vmap_init_free_space() down in vmalloc.c Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2023-05-23  6:06   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-05-27 21:52   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-05-22 11:08 ` [PATCH 4/9] mm: vmalloc: Add a per-CPU-zone infrastructure Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2023-05-23  6:08   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-05-23 14:53     ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-05-23 15:13       ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-05-23 15:32         ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-05-22 11:08 ` [PATCH 5/9] mm: vmalloc: Insert busy-VA per-cpu zone Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2023-05-23  6:12   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-05-23 15:00     ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-05-22 11:08 ` [PATCH 6/9] mm: vmalloc: Support multiple zones in vmallocinfo Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2023-05-22 11:08 ` [PATCH 7/9] mm: vmalloc: Insert lazy-VA per-cpu zone Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2023-05-22 11:08 ` [PATCH 8/9] mm: vmalloc: Offload free_vmap_area_lock global lock Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2023-06-05  0:43   ` Baoquan He
2023-06-06  9:01     ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-06-06 12:11       ` Baoquan He
2023-06-07  6:58         ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-05-22 11:08 ` [PATCH 9/9] mm: vmalloc: Scale and activate cvz_size Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2023-05-23 11:59 ` [PATCH 0/9] Mitigate a vmap lock contention Hyeonggon Yoo
2023-05-23 15:12   ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-05-23 18:04     ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2023-05-23 21:43       ` Dave Chinner
2023-05-24  1:30         ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2023-05-24  9:50       ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-05-24 21:56         ` Dave Chinner
2023-05-25  7:59           ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-05-25 10:20           ` Uladzislau Rezki [this message]

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