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From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/2] mm: disable CONFIG_PER_VMA_LOCK until its fixed
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2023 17:55:47 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZKXm41CPurR20wYr@x1n> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZKXgXFfrBzUjfkDN@casper.infradead.org>

On Wed, Jul 05, 2023 at 10:27:56PM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 05, 2023 at 04:25:21PM -0400, Peter Xu wrote:
> > There'll still try to be a final fix, am I right?  As IIRC allowing page
> > faults during fork() is one of the major goals of vma lock.
> 
> Good grief, no.  Why would we want to optimise something that happens
> so rarely?  The goal is, as usual, more performance.  Satisfying page
> faults while mmap()/munmap()/mprotect() are happening is worthwhile.
> Those happen a lot more than fork().
> 
> In this case though, there's also a priority-inversion problem that
> we're trying to solve where process A (high priority) calls mmap() while
> process B (low priority) is reading /proc/$pid/smaps and now (because
> rwsems are fair), none of process A's other threads can satisy any page
> faults until process B is scheduled.

Is it possible to extend vma lock to things like smaps?

> 
> Where on earth did you get the idea that we cared even a little bit
> about the performance of page fault during fork()?

My memory, when I was talking to someone during the conference that
mentioned such a use case.  But my memory can be just wrong, in that case
it's my fault, but I hope it's still fine to just ask here.

-- 
Peter Xu


      parent reply	other threads:[~2023-07-05 21:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-05 17:12 [PATCH v3 0/2] Avoid memory corruption caused by per-VMA locks Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-07-05 17:12 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] fork: lock VMAs of the parent process when forking Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-07-05 17:14   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-05 17:23     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-07-05 23:06       ` Liam R. Howlett
2023-07-06  0:20         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-07-06  0:32           ` Liam R. Howlett
2023-07-06  0:42             ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-07-05 17:12 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] mm: disable CONFIG_PER_VMA_LOCK until its fixed Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-07-05 17:15   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-05 17:22     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-07-05 17:24       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-05 18:09         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-07-05 18:14           ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-07-05 20:25       ` Peter Xu
2023-07-05 20:33         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-07-06  0:24           ` Andrew Morton
2023-07-06  0:30             ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-07-06  0:32               ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-07-06  0:44                 ` Andrew Morton
2023-07-06  0:49                   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-07-06  1:16                     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-07-05 20:37         ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-05 21:09           ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-07-05 21:27         ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-07-05 21:54           ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-07-05 21:55           ` Peter Xu [this message]

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