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From: Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com>
To: Jonathan Tan <jonathantanmy@google.com>
Cc: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, Derrick Stolee <derrickstolee@github.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 0/7] Changed path filter hash fix and version bump
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2023 20:01:13 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZMruSSAGQWS8crvi@nand.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZMlKMmAs3wKULAOd@nand.local>

On Tue, Aug 01, 2023 at 02:08:50PM -0400, Taylor Blau wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 27, 2023 at 01:53:08PM -0700, Jonathan Tan wrote:
> > Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com> writes:
> > > > The intention in the current patch set was to not load it at all when we
> > > > have incompatible Bloom settings because it appeared quite troublesome
> > > > to notate which Bloom filter in memory is of which version. If we want
> > > > to copy forward existing results, we can change that, but I don't know
> > > > whether it's worth doing that (and if we think it's worth doing, this
> > > > should probably go in another patch set).
> > >
> > > Yeah, I think having Bloom filters accessible from a commit-graph
> > > regardless of whether or not it matches our Bloom filter version is
> > > prerequisite to being able to implement something like this.
> > >
> > > I feel like this is important enough to do in the same patch set, or the
> > > same release to avoid surprising operators when their commit-graph write
> > > suddenly recomputes all of its Bloom filters.
> >
> > Suddenly reading many (or most) of the repo's trees would be a similar
> > surprise, right?
>
> That's a good point. I think in general I'd expect Git to avoid
> recomputing Bloom filters where that work can be avoided, if the work in
> order to detect whether or not we need to recompute a filter is cheap
> enough to carry out.

I spent some time implementing this (patches are available in the branch
'tb/path-filter-fix-upgrade' from my fork). Handling incompatible Bloom
filter versions is kind of tricky, but do-able without having to
implement too much on top of what's already there.

But I don't think that it's enough to say that we can reuse a commit's
Bloom filter iff that commit's tree has no paths with characters >=
0x80. Suppose we have such a tree, whose Bloom filter we believe to be
reusable. If its first parent *does* have such a path, then that path
would appear as a deletion relative to its first parent. So that path
*would* be in the filter, meaning that it isn't reusable.

So I think the revised condition is something like: a commit's Bloom
filter is reusable when there are no paths with characters >= 0x80 in
a tree-diff against its first parent. I think that ensuring that there
are no such paths in both a commit's root tree, as well as its first
parent's root tree is equivalent, since that removes the possibility of
such a path showing up in its tree-diff.

As long as we aren't generating a commit-graph with --stdin-packs, then
we process commits in generation order, so we will see parents before
their children. I think we could reuse existing filters in that case,
but the condition is slightly more complex than I originally thought.

Thanks,
Taylor

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-08-03  0:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 116+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-22 21:48 [PATCH 0/2] Changed path filter hash fix and version bump Jonathan Tan
2023-05-22 21:48 ` [PATCH 1/2] t4216: test wrong bloom filter version rejection Jonathan Tan
2023-05-22 21:48 ` [PATCH 2/2] commit-graph: fix murmur3, bump filter ver. to 2 Jonathan Tan
2023-05-23 13:00   ` Derrick Stolee
2023-05-23 23:00     ` Jonathan Tan
2023-05-23 23:51     ` Junio C Hamano
2023-05-24 21:26       ` Jonathan Tan
2023-05-26 13:19         ` Derrick Stolee
2023-05-30 17:26           ` Jonathan Tan
2023-05-23  4:42 ` [PATCH 0/2] Changed path filter hash fix and version bump Junio C Hamano
2023-05-31 23:12 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] " Jonathan Tan
2023-05-31 23:12   ` [PATCH v2 1/3] t4216: test changed path filters with high bit paths Jonathan Tan
2023-05-31 23:12   ` [PATCH v2 2/3] repo-settings: introduce commitgraph.changedPathsVersion Jonathan Tan
2023-05-31 23:12   ` [PATCH v2 3/3] commit-graph: new filter ver. that fixes murmur3 Jonathan Tan
2023-06-03  1:01   ` [PATCH v2 0/3] Changed path filter hash fix and version bump Junio C Hamano
2023-06-03  2:24     ` Junio C Hamano
2023-06-07 16:30       ` Jonathan Tan
2023-06-07 21:37         ` Jonathan Tan
2023-06-08 19:21 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] " Jonathan Tan
2023-06-08 19:21   ` [PATCH v3 1/4] gitformat-commit-graph: describe version 2 of BDAT Jonathan Tan
2023-06-08 19:52     ` Ramsay Jones
2023-06-12 21:26       ` Junio C Hamano
2023-06-08 19:21   ` [PATCH v3 2/4] t4216: test changed path filters with high bit paths Jonathan Tan
2023-06-08 19:21   ` [PATCH v3 3/4] repo-settings: introduce commitgraph.changedPathsVersion Jonathan Tan
2023-06-08 19:21   ` [PATCH v3 4/4] commit-graph: new filter ver. that fixes murmur3 Jonathan Tan
2023-06-08 19:50   ` [PATCH v3 0/4] Changed path filter hash fix and version bump Ramsay Jones
2023-06-09  0:08     ` Jonathan Tan
2023-06-12 21:31     ` Junio C Hamano
2023-06-13 17:16       ` Jonathan Tan
2023-06-13 17:29         ` [PATCH] CodingGuidelines: use octal escapes, not hex Jonathan Tan
2023-06-13 18:16           ` Eric Sunshine
2023-06-13 18:43             ` Jonathan Tan
2023-06-13 19:15               ` Eric Sunshine
2023-06-13 19:29                 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-06-13 19:16         ` [PATCH v3 0/4] Changed path filter hash fix and version bump Junio C Hamano
2023-06-13 17:39 ` [PATCH v4 " Jonathan Tan
2023-06-13 17:39   ` [PATCH v4 1/4] gitformat-commit-graph: describe version 2 of BDAT Jonathan Tan
2023-06-13 21:58     ` Junio C Hamano
2023-06-20 13:22       ` Derrick Stolee
2023-06-21 12:08       ` Taylor Blau
2023-06-22 22:26         ` Jonathan Tan
2023-06-23 13:05           ` Derrick Stolee
2023-06-13 17:39   ` [PATCH v4 2/4] t4216: test changed path filters with high bit paths Jonathan Tan
2023-06-13 17:39   ` [PATCH v4 3/4] repo-settings: introduce commitgraph.changedPathsVersion Jonathan Tan
2023-06-20 13:28     ` Derrick Stolee
2023-06-21 12:14     ` Taylor Blau
2023-06-13 17:39   ` [PATCH v4 4/4] commit-graph: new filter ver. that fixes murmur3 Jonathan Tan
2023-06-20 13:39     ` Derrick Stolee
2023-06-20 18:37       ` Junio C Hamano
2023-06-13 19:21   ` [PATCH v4 0/4] Changed path filter hash fix and version bump Junio C Hamano
2023-06-20 13:43     ` Derrick Stolee
2023-06-20 21:56       ` Jonathan Tan
2023-06-21 12:19       ` Taylor Blau
2023-06-21 17:53         ` Derrick Stolee
2023-06-22 22:27           ` Jonathan Tan
2023-06-23 13:18             ` Derrick Stolee
2023-07-13 21:42 ` [PATCH v5 " Jonathan Tan
2023-07-13 21:42   ` [PATCH v5 1/4] gitformat-commit-graph: describe version 2 of BDAT Jonathan Tan
2023-07-19 17:25     ` Taylor Blau
2023-07-20 20:20       ` Jonathan Tan
2023-07-21  1:38         ` Taylor Blau
2023-07-13 21:42   ` [PATCH v5 2/4] t4216: test changed path filters with high bit paths Jonathan Tan
2023-07-13 22:50     ` Junio C Hamano
2023-07-19 17:27       ` Taylor Blau
2023-07-19 17:55         ` [PATCH 0/4] commit-graph: avoid looking at Bloom filter data directly Taylor Blau
2023-07-19 17:55           ` [PATCH 1/4] t/helper/test-read-graph.c: extract `dump_graph_info()` Taylor Blau
2023-07-19 17:55           ` [PATCH 2/4] bloom.h: make `load_bloom_filter_from_graph()` public Taylor Blau
2023-07-19 17:55           ` [PATCH 3/4] t/helper/test-read-graph: implement `bloom-filters` mode Taylor Blau
2023-07-19 17:55           ` [PATCH 4/4] fixup! t4216: test changed path filters with high bit paths Taylor Blau
2023-07-19 19:24           ` [PATCH 0/4] commit-graph: avoid looking at Bloom filter data directly Junio C Hamano
2023-07-20 20:22           ` Jonathan Tan
2023-07-13 21:42   ` [PATCH v5 3/4] repo-settings: introduce commitgraph.changedPathsVersion Jonathan Tan
2023-07-19 18:10     ` Taylor Blau
2023-07-20 20:42       ` Jonathan Tan
2023-07-20 21:02         ` Taylor Blau
2023-07-13 21:42   ` [PATCH v5 4/4] commit-graph: new filter ver. that fixes murmur3 Jonathan Tan
2023-07-19 18:24     ` Taylor Blau
2023-07-20 21:27       ` Jonathan Tan
2023-07-26 23:32         ` Taylor Blau
2023-07-13 22:16   ` [PATCH v5 0/4] Changed path filter hash fix and version bump Junio C Hamano
2023-07-13 22:59     ` Junio C Hamano
2023-07-14 18:48     ` Jonathan Tan
2023-07-20 21:46 ` [PATCH v6 0/7] " Jonathan Tan
2023-07-20 21:46   ` [PATCH v6 1/7] gitformat-commit-graph: describe version 2 of BDAT Jonathan Tan
2023-07-20 21:46   ` [PATCH v6 2/7] t/helper/test-read-graph.c: extract `dump_graph_info()` Jonathan Tan
2023-07-26 23:26     ` Taylor Blau
2023-07-20 21:46   ` [PATCH v6 3/7] bloom.h: make `load_bloom_filter_from_graph()` public Jonathan Tan
2023-07-20 21:46   ` [PATCH v6 4/7] t/helper/test-read-graph: implement `bloom-filters` mode Jonathan Tan
2023-07-20 21:46   ` [PATCH v6 5/7] t4216: test changed path filters with high bit paths Jonathan Tan
2023-07-26 23:28     ` Taylor Blau
2023-07-20 21:46   ` [PATCH v6 6/7] repo-settings: introduce commitgraph.changedPathsVersion Jonathan Tan
2023-07-20 21:46   ` [PATCH v6 7/7] commit-graph: new filter ver. that fixes murmur3 Jonathan Tan
2023-07-25 20:52   ` [PATCH v6 0/7] Changed path filter hash fix and version bump Junio C Hamano
2023-07-26 20:39   ` Junio C Hamano
2023-07-27  0:17     ` Taylor Blau
2023-07-27  0:49       ` Junio C Hamano
2023-07-27 17:39         ` Jonathan Tan
2023-07-27 17:56           ` Taylor Blau
2023-07-27 20:53             ` Jonathan Tan
2023-08-01 18:08               ` Taylor Blau
2023-08-01 18:52                 ` Jonathan Tan
2023-08-03  0:01                 ` Taylor Blau [this message]
2023-08-03 13:18                   ` Derrick Stolee
2023-08-03 18:45                     ` Taylor Blau
2023-07-27 18:44         ` Junio C Hamano
2023-08-01 18:41 ` [PATCH v7 " Jonathan Tan
2023-08-01 18:41   ` [PATCH v7 1/7] gitformat-commit-graph: describe version 2 of BDAT Jonathan Tan
2023-08-01 18:41   ` [PATCH v7 2/7] t/helper/test-read-graph.c: extract `dump_graph_info()` Jonathan Tan
2023-08-01 18:41   ` [PATCH v7 3/7] bloom.h: make `load_bloom_filter_from_graph()` public Jonathan Tan
2023-08-01 18:41   ` [PATCH v7 4/7] t/helper/test-read-graph: implement `bloom-filters` mode Jonathan Tan
2023-08-01 18:41   ` [PATCH v7 5/7] t4216: test changed path filters with high bit paths Jonathan Tan
2023-08-01 18:41   ` [PATCH v7 6/7] repo-settings: introduce commitgraph.changedPathsVersion Jonathan Tan
2023-08-01 18:41   ` [PATCH v7 7/7] commit-graph: new filter ver. that fixes murmur3 Jonathan Tan
2023-08-01 18:44   ` [PATCH v7 0/7] Changed path filter hash fix and version bump Junio C Hamano
2023-08-01 20:58     ` Taylor Blau
2023-08-01 21:07       ` Junio C Hamano

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