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From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>
Cc: "Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-riscv@nongnu.org,
	qemu-ppc@nongnu.org, qemu-s390x@nongnu.org, qemu-arm@nongnu.org,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/13] misc: Rename 'softmmu' -> 'system'
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2023 13:51:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZR1ftQm2wwsdJU0+@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <85be2979-c0ca-3eb4-dae9-bbabf256c201@redhat.com>

On Wed, Oct 04, 2023 at 02:37:14PM +0200, Thomas Huth wrote:
> On 04/10/2023 14.33, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 04, 2023 at 11:06:15AM +0200, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote:
> > > This series finishes the cleanup which remove the confusion
> > > of using 'softmmu' when we really mean 'system emulation',
> > > as opposition to 'user emulation'.
> > 
> > Am I mis-understanding what you mean by 'finishes' here, as
> > I see many references to softmmu remaining
> > 
> >    $ git grep softmmu | wc -l
> >    270
> > 
> > In particular under configs/
> > 
> > I was also hoping it meant that we'd be changing configure
> > to allow
> > 
> >      configure --target-list=x86_64-system
> > 
> > though the lazy side of me would like
> > 
> >      configure --target-list=x86_64-vm
> > 
> > for less typing
> 
> Maybe we should also bikeshed about the naming first... "system" is a quite
> overloaded word in this context already, and "vm" sounds rather like
> hardware-accelerated stuff ... what about using something like "sysemu"? Or
> "fullsys" for "full system emulation" (in contrast to "user space"-only
> emulation)?

Simply 'machine' feels like an option, to avoid suggesting a bias towards
either virtualization or emulation.


With regards,
Daniel
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  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-04 12:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-04  9:06 [PATCH 00/13] misc: Rename 'softmmu' -> 'system' Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-10-04  9:06 ` [PATCH 01/13] softmmu/trace-events: Fix a typo Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-10-04  9:06 ` [PATCH 02/13] travis-ci: Correct invalid mentions of 'softmmu' by 'system' Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-10-04  9:06 ` [PATCH 03/13] cpu: Correct invalid mentions of 'softmmu' by 'system-mode' Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-10-04  9:06 ` [PATCH 04/13] fuzz: Correct invalid mentions of 'softmmu' by 'system' Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-10-04  9:22   ` Alexander Bulekov
2023-10-04  9:06 ` [PATCH 05/13] tcg: Correct invalid mentions of 'softmmu' by 'system-mode' Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-10-04  9:06 ` [PATCH 06/13] accel: Rename accel_softmmu* -> accel_system* Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-10-04  9:06 ` [PATCH 07/13] gdbstub: Rename 'softmmu' -> 'system' Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-10-04 15:23   ` Alex Bennée
2023-10-04  9:06 ` [PATCH 08/13] semihosting: Rename softmmu_FOO_user() -> uaccess_FOO_user() Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-10-04  9:06 ` [PATCH 09/13] target/i386: Rename i386_softmmu_kvm_ss -> i386_kvm_ss Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-10-04  9:06 ` [PATCH 10/13] hw/virtio/meson: Rename softmmu_virtio_ss -> system_virtio_ss Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-10-04  9:06 ` [PATCH 11/13] meson: Rename softmmu_mods -> system_mods Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-10-04  9:06 ` [PATCH 12/13] meson: Rename target_softmmu_arch -> target_system_arch Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-10-04  9:06 ` [PATCH 13/13] system: Rename softmmu/ directory as system/ Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-10-04 12:03   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-10-04 12:46     ` BALATON Zoltan
2023-10-04 12:33 ` [PATCH 00/13] misc: Rename 'softmmu' -> 'system' Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-04 12:37   ` Thomas Huth
2023-10-04 12:51     ` Daniel P. Berrangé [this message]
2023-10-04 13:41     ` Claudio Fontana
2023-10-04 13:49       ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-10-04 13:53         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-10-06  7:49           ` Thomas Huth
2023-10-04 14:06         ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-10-04 13:20 ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-10-04 13:26   ` Thomas Huth

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