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From: Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@gmail.com>,
	Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/7] builtin/merge-tree.c: implement support for `--write-pack`
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2023 19:02:05 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZSCR7e6KKqFv8mZk@nand.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqil7j751u.fsf@gitster.g>

On Fri, Oct 06, 2023 at 03:35:25PM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com> writes:
>
> > When using merge-tree often within a repository[^1], it is possible to
> > generate a relatively large number of loose objects, which can result in
> > degraded performance, and inode exhaustion in extreme cases.
>
> Well, be it "git merge-tree" or "git merge", new loose objects tend
> to accumulate until "gc" kicks in, so it is not a new problem for
> mere mortals, is it?

Yeah, I would definitely suspect that this is more of an issue for
forges than individual Git users.

> As one "interesting" use case of "merge-tree" is for a Git hosting
> site with bare repositories to offer trial merges, without which
> majority of the object their repositories acquire would have been in
> packs pushed by their users, "Gee, loose objects consume many inodes
> in exchange for easier selective pruning" becomes an issue, right?

Right.

> Just like it hurts performance to have too many loose object files,
> presumably it would also hurt performance to keep too many packs,
> each came from such a trial merge.  Do we have a "gc" story offered
> for these packs created by the new feature?  E.g., "once merge-tree
> is done creating a trial merge, we can discard the objects created
> in the pack, because we never expose new objects in the pack to the
> outside, processes running simultaneously, so instead closing the
> new packfile by calling flush_bulk_checkin_packfile(), we can safely
> unlink the temporary pack.  We do not even need to spend cycles to
> run a gc that requires cycles to enumerate what is still reachable",
> or something like that?

I know Johannes worked on something like this recently. IIRC, it
effectively does something like:

    struct tmp_objdir *tmp_objdir = tmp_objdir_create(...);
    tmp_objdir_replace_primary_odb(tmp_objdir, 1);

at the beginning of a merge operation, and:

    tmp_objdir_discard_objects(tmp_objdir);

at the end. I haven't followed that work off-list very closely, but it
is only possible for GitHub to discard certain niche kinds of
merges/rebases, since in general we make the objects created during test
merges available via refs/pull/N/{merge,rebase}.

I think that like anything, this is a trade-off. Having lots of packs
can be a performance hindrance just like having lots of loose objects.
But since we can represent more objects with fewer inodes when packed,
storing those objects together in a pack is preferable when (a) you're
doing lots of test-merges, and (b) you want to keep those objects
around, e.g., because they are reachable.

Thanks,
Taylor

  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-06 23:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-06 22:01 [PATCH 0/7] merge-ort: implement support for packing objects together Taylor Blau
2023-10-06 22:01 ` [PATCH 1/7] bulk-checkin: factor out `format_object_header_hash()` Taylor Blau
2023-10-06 22:01 ` [PATCH 2/7] bulk-checkin: factor out `prepare_checkpoint()` Taylor Blau
2023-10-06 22:01 ` [PATCH 3/7] bulk-checkin: factor out `truncate_checkpoint()` Taylor Blau
2023-10-06 22:01 ` [PATCH 4/7] bulk-checkin: factor our `finalize_checkpoint()` Taylor Blau
2023-10-06 22:02 ` [PATCH 5/7] bulk-checkin: introduce `index_blob_bulk_checkin_incore()` Taylor Blau
2023-10-06 22:02 ` [PATCH 6/7] bulk-checkin: introduce `index_tree_bulk_checkin_incore()` Taylor Blau
2023-10-07  3:07   ` Eric Biederman
2023-10-09  1:31     ` Taylor Blau
2023-10-06 22:02 ` [PATCH 7/7] builtin/merge-tree.c: implement support for `--write-pack` Taylor Blau
2023-10-06 22:35   ` Junio C Hamano
2023-10-06 23:02     ` Taylor Blau [this message]
2023-10-08  7:02       ` Elijah Newren
2023-10-08 16:04         ` Taylor Blau
2023-10-08 17:33           ` Jeff King
2023-10-09  1:37             ` Taylor Blau
2023-10-09 20:21               ` Jeff King
2023-10-09 17:24             ` Junio C Hamano
2023-10-09 10:54       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-10-09 16:08         ` Taylor Blau
2023-10-10  6:36           ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-10-17 16:31 ` [PATCH v2 0/7] merge-ort: implement support for packing objects together Taylor Blau
2023-10-17 16:31   ` [PATCH v2 1/7] bulk-checkin: factor out `format_object_header_hash()` Taylor Blau
2023-10-17 16:31   ` [PATCH v2 2/7] bulk-checkin: factor out `prepare_checkpoint()` Taylor Blau
2023-10-17 16:31   ` [PATCH v2 3/7] bulk-checkin: factor out `truncate_checkpoint()` Taylor Blau
2023-10-17 16:31   ` [PATCH v2 4/7] bulk-checkin: factor our `finalize_checkpoint()` Taylor Blau
2023-10-17 16:31   ` [PATCH v2 5/7] bulk-checkin: introduce `index_blob_bulk_checkin_incore()` Taylor Blau
2023-10-18  2:18     ` Junio C Hamano
2023-10-18 16:34       ` Taylor Blau
2023-10-17 16:31   ` [PATCH v2 6/7] bulk-checkin: introduce `index_tree_bulk_checkin_incore()` Taylor Blau
2023-10-17 16:31   ` [PATCH v2 7/7] builtin/merge-tree.c: implement support for `--write-pack` Taylor Blau
2023-10-18 17:07 ` [PATCH v3 00/10] merge-ort: implement support for packing objects together Taylor Blau
2023-10-18 17:07   ` [PATCH v3 01/10] bulk-checkin: factor out `format_object_header_hash()` Taylor Blau
2023-10-18 17:07   ` [PATCH v3 02/10] bulk-checkin: factor out `prepare_checkpoint()` Taylor Blau
2023-10-18 17:07   ` [PATCH v3 03/10] bulk-checkin: factor out `truncate_checkpoint()` Taylor Blau
2023-10-18 17:07   ` [PATCH v3 04/10] bulk-checkin: factor out `finalize_checkpoint()` Taylor Blau
2023-10-18 17:08   ` [PATCH v3 05/10] bulk-checkin: extract abstract `bulk_checkin_source` Taylor Blau
2023-10-18 23:10     ` Junio C Hamano
2023-10-19 15:19       ` Taylor Blau
2023-10-19 17:55         ` Junio C Hamano
2023-10-18 17:08   ` [PATCH v3 06/10] bulk-checkin: implement `SOURCE_INCORE` mode for `bulk_checkin_source` Taylor Blau
2023-10-18 17:08   ` [PATCH v3 07/10] bulk-checkin: generify `stream_blob_to_pack()` for arbitrary types Taylor Blau
2023-10-18 17:08   ` [PATCH v3 08/10] bulk-checkin: introduce `index_blob_bulk_checkin_incore()` Taylor Blau
2023-10-18 23:18     ` Junio C Hamano
2023-10-19 15:30       ` Taylor Blau
2023-10-18 17:08   ` [PATCH v3 09/10] bulk-checkin: introduce `index_tree_bulk_checkin_incore()` Taylor Blau
2023-10-18 17:08   ` [PATCH v3 10/10] builtin/merge-tree.c: implement support for `--write-pack` Taylor Blau
2023-10-18 18:32 ` [PATCH v4 00/17] bloom: changed-path Bloom filters v2 (& sundries) Taylor Blau
2023-10-18 18:32   ` [PATCH v4 01/17] t/t4216-log-bloom.sh: harden `test_bloom_filters_not_used()` Taylor Blau
2023-10-18 18:32   ` [PATCH v4 02/17] revision.c: consult Bloom filters for root commits Taylor Blau
2023-10-18 18:32   ` [PATCH v4 03/17] commit-graph: ensure Bloom filters are read with consistent settings Taylor Blau
2023-10-18 18:32   ` [PATCH v4 04/17] gitformat-commit-graph: describe version 2 of BDAT Taylor Blau
2023-10-18 18:32   ` [PATCH v4 05/17] t/helper/test-read-graph.c: extract `dump_graph_info()` Taylor Blau
2023-10-18 18:32   ` [PATCH v4 06/17] bloom.h: make `load_bloom_filter_from_graph()` public Taylor Blau
2023-10-18 18:32   ` [PATCH v4 07/17] t/helper/test-read-graph: implement `bloom-filters` mode Taylor Blau
2023-10-18 18:32   ` [PATCH v4 08/17] t4216: test changed path filters with high bit paths Taylor Blau
2023-10-18 18:32   ` [PATCH v4 09/17] repo-settings: introduce commitgraph.changedPathsVersion Taylor Blau
2023-10-18 18:32   ` [PATCH v4 10/17] commit-graph: new filter ver. that fixes murmur3 Taylor Blau
2023-10-18 18:33   ` [PATCH v4 11/17] bloom: annotate filters with hash version Taylor Blau
2023-10-18 18:33   ` [PATCH v4 12/17] bloom: prepare to discard incompatible Bloom filters Taylor Blau
2023-10-18 18:33   ` [PATCH v4 13/17] commit-graph.c: unconditionally load " Taylor Blau
2023-10-18 18:33   ` [PATCH v4 14/17] commit-graph: drop unnecessary `graph_read_bloom_data_context` Taylor Blau
2023-10-18 18:33   ` [PATCH v4 15/17] object.h: fix mis-aligned flag bits table Taylor Blau
2023-10-18 18:33   ` [PATCH v4 16/17] commit-graph: reuse existing Bloom filters where possible Taylor Blau
2023-10-18 18:33   ` [PATCH v4 17/17] bloom: introduce `deinit_bloom_filters()` Taylor Blau
2023-10-18 23:26   ` [PATCH v4 00/17] bloom: changed-path Bloom filters v2 (& sundries) Junio C Hamano
2023-10-20 17:27     ` Taylor Blau
2023-10-23 20:22       ` SZEDER Gábor
2023-10-30 20:24         ` Taylor Blau
2024-01-16 22:08   ` [PATCH v5 " Taylor Blau
2024-01-16 22:09     ` [PATCH v5 01/17] t/t4216-log-bloom.sh: harden `test_bloom_filters_not_used()` Taylor Blau
2024-01-16 22:09     ` [PATCH v5 02/17] revision.c: consult Bloom filters for root commits Taylor Blau
2024-01-16 22:09     ` [PATCH v5 03/17] commit-graph: ensure Bloom filters are read with consistent settings Taylor Blau
2024-01-16 22:09     ` [PATCH v5 04/17] gitformat-commit-graph: describe version 2 of BDAT Taylor Blau
2024-01-16 22:09     ` [PATCH v5 05/17] t/helper/test-read-graph.c: extract `dump_graph_info()` Taylor Blau
2024-01-16 22:09     ` [PATCH v5 06/17] bloom.h: make `load_bloom_filter_from_graph()` public Taylor Blau
2024-01-16 22:09     ` [PATCH v5 07/17] t/helper/test-read-graph: implement `bloom-filters` mode Taylor Blau
2024-01-16 22:09     ` [PATCH v5 08/17] t4216: test changed path filters with high bit paths Taylor Blau
2024-01-16 22:09     ` [PATCH v5 09/17] repo-settings: introduce commitgraph.changedPathsVersion Taylor Blau
2024-01-29 21:26       ` SZEDER Gábor
2024-01-29 23:58         ` Taylor Blau
2024-01-16 22:09     ` [PATCH v5 10/17] commit-graph: new Bloom filter version that fixes murmur3 Taylor Blau
2024-01-16 22:09     ` [PATCH v5 11/17] bloom: annotate filters with hash version Taylor Blau
2024-01-16 22:09     ` [PATCH v5 12/17] bloom: prepare to discard incompatible Bloom filters Taylor Blau
2024-01-16 22:09     ` [PATCH v5 13/17] commit-graph.c: unconditionally load " Taylor Blau
2024-01-16 22:09     ` [PATCH v5 14/17] commit-graph: drop unnecessary `graph_read_bloom_data_context` Taylor Blau
2024-01-16 22:09     ` [PATCH v5 15/17] object.h: fix mis-aligned flag bits table Taylor Blau
2024-01-16 22:09     ` [PATCH v5 16/17] commit-graph: reuse existing Bloom filters where possible Taylor Blau
2024-01-16 22:09     ` [PATCH v5 17/17] bloom: introduce `deinit_bloom_filters()` Taylor Blau

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