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From: gs-yoctoproject.org@gluelogic.com
To: Ross Burton <Ross.Burton@arm.com>
Cc: "poky@lists.yoctoproject.org" <poky@lists.yoctoproject.org>
Subject: Re: [poky] [PATCH 0/3] lighttpd-1.4.72
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2023 08:54:46 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZTJ4lpMInFmxKpVx@xps13> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <32D688B5-0765-4F89-B0FD-1BADD4458601@arm.com>

On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 12:18:22PM +0000, Ross Burton wrote:
> On 20 Oct 2023, at 12:48, Glenn Strauss via lists.yoctoproject.org <gs-yoctoproject.org=gluelogic.com@lists.yoctoproject.org> wrote:
> > Glenn Strauss (3):
> >  lighttpd: upgrade 1.4.71 -> 1.4.72
> >  lighttpd: update init script
> >  lighttpd: modernize lighttpd.conf
> 
> Poky is a generated repository that doesn’t actually have any patches directly merged into it, so these should be sent to openembedded-core@lists.yoctoproject.org <mailto:openembedded-core@lists.yoctoproject.org>.

I'll re-send to the openembedded-core list.
Thanks for the pointer, Richard and Ross.

==> Would someone please update the documentation?

https://docs.yoctoproject.org/contributor-guide/submit-changes.html#finding-a-suitable-mailing-list
4.4.3 Finding a Suitable Mailing List
“meta-*” trees: These trees contain Metadata. Use the poky mailing list.

> However, I was also just looking at the lighttpd recipe.  Specifically I was extracting the sample site from the main package so it’s easier to add in your own site files, basically putting /var/www/pages into lighttpd-site-sample and then recommending that from the main package.  The goal being that in the simple test case the sample site is pulled in, but it’s trivial to package up your own site that conflicts with site-sample.

That sounds reasonable to me.
I like the idea of being able to remove the sample site.
I also like the idea of having a sample site to get people started.

> This worked but then I realised that the config file is fairly tied to the site too.  As - presumably - a lighttpd user, do you have any opinion on where the lighttpd.conf file should be packaged?  I’m leaning towards bundling it with the sample-site but am undecided as to whether that’s actually a good idea.

I am a lighttpd developer.  While I have some strong opinions about
packages and how it is done in many different distros, I am less
familiar with yocto specifics and more interested in trying to help
people run the best available version of lighttpd, which is always
the latest stable release.

I'll share my thoughts and hope some people using lighttpd with ptxdist
can add their opinions, too.

Overall, one-size fits all packaging generally makes tradeoffs
for new users, versus scripters, versus dev-ops.  Personally, I
think packagers tend to overcomplicate things trying to please too
many different user types at once.

The smallest lighttpd config is one line:
  server.document-root = "/path/to/test/site"
and lighttpd will by default listen on port 80 and will run as the user
that started lighttpd.  Often, a test site also includes a second line
in the config:
  index-file.names = ("index.html")
and the test site has a single file /path/to/test/site/index.html

I think that is what distros should ship, along with one more line:
  include "/etc/lighttpd/conf.d/*.conf"

Users can then reconfigure the server as they like by dropping files in
/etc/lighttpd/conf.d/*.conf, including overwriting the default document
root with
  server.document-root := "/path/to/default/site"
and disabling index files with
  index-file.names = ()
or reconfiguring with something like
  index-file.names := ("index.html", "index.htm")

The sample site, if a separate package, could add files into
/etc/lighttpd/conf.d/*.conf (or whatever location ptxdist uses)
with the sample site config.

Cheers, Glenn


  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-20 12:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-20 11:48 [PATCH 0/3] lighttpd-1.4.72 Glenn Strauss
2023-10-20 11:48 ` [PATCH 1/3] lighttpd: upgrade 1.4.71 -> 1.4.72 Glenn Strauss
2023-10-20 16:28   ` [poky] " Khem Raj
2023-10-20 11:48 ` [PATCH 2/3] lighttpd: update init script Glenn Strauss
2023-10-20 11:48 ` [PATCH 3/3] lighttpd: modernize lighttpd.conf Glenn Strauss
2023-10-20 12:08 ` [poky] [PATCH 0/3] lighttpd-1.4.72 Richard Purdie
2023-10-20 12:18 ` Ross Burton
2023-10-20 12:54   ` gs-yoctoproject.org [this message]
2023-10-20 13:55     ` Ross Burton
2023-10-20 15:40       ` gs-yoctoproject.org
2024-03-14 18:32       ` Martin Jansa
     [not found]       ` <17BCB52E812AFFB8.6435@lists.yoctoproject.org>
2024-03-15  9:59         ` Martin Jansa

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