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Miller" , Eric Dumazet , Jakub Kicinski , Paolo Abeni , Broadcom internal kernel review list , "open list:ARM/Mediatek SoC support" , "moderated list:ARM/Mediatek SoC support" Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 1/2] net: dsa: Use conduit and user terms Message-ID: References: <20231011222026.4181654-1-florian.fainelli@broadcom.com> <20231011222026.4181654-2-florian.fainelli@broadcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20231011222026.4181654-2-florian.fainelli@broadcom.com> X-CRM114-Version: 20100106-BlameMichelson ( TRE 0.8.0 (BSD) ) MR-646709E3 X-CRM114-CacheID: sfid-20231023_001253_108460_A5206EA5 X-CRM114-Status: UNSURE ( 7.32 ) X-CRM114-Notice: Please train this message. X-BeenThere: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: "linux-arm-kernel" Errors-To: linux-arm-kernel-bounces+linux-arm-kernel=archiver.kernel.org@lists.infradead.org On Wed 2023-10-11 15:20:25, Florian Fainelli wrote: > Use more inclusive terms throughout the DSA subsystem by moving away > from "master" which is replaced by "conduit" and "slave" which is > replaced by "user". No functional changes. Note that by making it more "inclusive" you make it incomprehensible for users where english is not their first language. Plus, "user" already means something else in kernel context, so this will likely be confusing even for native speakers. This is wrong. Pavel -- People of Russia, stop Putin before his war on Ukraine escalates. _______________________________________________ linux-arm-kernel mailing list linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-arm-kernel From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0BDECDB474 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2023 07:12:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S233407AbjJWHMw (ORCPT ); Mon, 23 Oct 2023 03:12:52 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:48764 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S233413AbjJWHMs (ORCPT ); Mon, 23 Oct 2023 03:12:48 -0400 Received: from jabberwock.ucw.cz (jabberwock.ucw.cz [46.255.230.98]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8B8E4D5B; Mon, 23 Oct 2023 00:12:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by jabberwock.ucw.cz (Postfix, from userid 1017) id 0A3D51C0050; Mon, 23 Oct 2023 09:12:43 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ucw.cz; s=gen1; t=1698045163; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=uWY9IhwyIhCeVdCcLJwPKSHJpNtnV6qmnh4HjGO9q7s=; b=nIRJ+lnGZh4xqfEGSQoJhUb5cpx+RBavjKyF3CYORizYMoQXK0RsgXM3qMKhfbZn9daw+1 B9nMOzlZQ4XDA33mXpM93Cf/k0/IAuhv2CWpfYLzKgAD/GeUXQXbokSXiBG7Bp/CjNJqvR +6zuRJODzNzADmwRhy122wHuWjWRj6k= Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2023 09:12:42 +0200 From: Pavel Machek To: Florian Fainelli Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Lunn , Florian Fainelli , Vladimir Oltean , "David S. Miller" , Eric Dumazet , Jakub Kicinski , Paolo Abeni , Broadcom internal kernel review list , "open list:ARM/Mediatek SoC support" , "moderated list:ARM/Mediatek SoC support" Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 1/2] net: dsa: Use conduit and user terms Message-ID: References: <20231011222026.4181654-1-florian.fainelli@broadcom.com> <20231011222026.4181654-2-florian.fainelli@broadcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: <20231011222026.4181654-2-florian.fainelli@broadcom.com> Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed 2023-10-11 15:20:25, Florian Fainelli wrote: > Use more inclusive terms throughout the DSA subsystem by moving away > from "master" which is replaced by "conduit" and "slave" which is > replaced by "user". No functional changes. Note that by making it more "inclusive" you make it incomprehensible for users where english is not their first language. Plus, "user" already means something else in kernel context, so this will likely be confusing even for native speakers. This is wrong. Pavel --=20 People of Russia, stop Putin before his war on Ukraine escalates.