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From: "Günther Noack" <gnoack@google.com>
To: "Mickaël Salaün" <mic@digikod.net>
Cc: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	Jeff Xu <jeffxu@google.com>,
	Jorge Lucangeli Obes <jorgelo@chromium.org>,
	Allen Webb <allenwebb@google.com>,
	Dmitry Torokhov <dtor@google.com>,
	Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>,
	Konstantin Meskhidze <konstantin.meskhidze@huawei.com>,
	Matt Bobrowski <repnop@google.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/5] Landlock: IOCTL support
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2023 14:06:53 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZUTwbTc6BETB1ClB@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231026.oiPeosh1yieg@digikod.net>

Hello Mickaël!

Thanks for the review!

On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 04:55:30PM +0200, Mickaël Salaün wrote:
> The third column "IOCTL unhandled" is not reflected here. What about
> this patch?
> 
> if (!(handled & LANDLOCK_ACCESS_FS_IOCTL)) {
>   return am | dst;
> }

You are right that this needs special treatment.  The reasoning is the scenario
where a user creates a ruleset where LANDLOCK_ACCESS_FS_READ_FILE is handled,
but LANDLOCK_ACCESS_FS_IOCTL is not.  In that case, when a file is opened for
which we do not have the READ_FILE access right, without your additional check,
the IOCTLs associated with READ_FILE would be forbidden.  But this is also a
Landlock usage that was possible before the introduction of the IOCTL handling,
and so all IOCTLs should work in that case.

> 
> >     if (handled & src) {
> >       /* If "src" access right is handled, populate "dst" from "src". */
> >       return am | ((am & src) ? dst : 0);
> >     } else {
> >       /* Otherwise, populate "dst" flag from "ioctl" flag. */
> >       return am | ((am & LANDLOCK_ACCESS_FS_IOCTL) ? dst : 0);
> >     }
> >   }
> > 
> >   static access_mask_t expand_all_ioctl(access_mask_t handled, access_mask_t am)
> >   {
> 
> Instead of reapeating "am | " in expand_ioctl() and assigning am several
> times in expand_all_ioctl(), you could simply do something like that:
> 
> return am |
> 	expand_ioctl(handled, am, ...) |
> 	expand_ioctl(handled, am, ...) |
> 	expand_ioctl(handled, am, ...);

Agreed, this is more elegant.  Will do.


> >     am = expand_ioctl(handled, am,
> >                       LANDLOCK_ACCESS_FS_WRITE_FILE,
> > 		      IOCTL_CMD_G1 | IOCTL_CMD_G2 | IOCTL_CMD_G4);
> >     am = expand_ioctl(handled, am,
> >                       LANDLOCK_ACCESS_FS_READ_FILE,
> > 		      IOCTL_CMD_G1 | IOCTL_CMD_G2 | IOCTL_CMD_G3);
> >     am = expand_ioctl(handled, am,
> >                       LANDLOCK_ACCESS_FS_READ_DIR,
> > 		      IOCTL_CMD_G1);
> >     return am;
> >   }
> > 
> >   and then during the installing of a ruleset, we'd call
> >   expand_all_ioctl(handled, access) for each specified file access, and
> >   expand_all_ioctl(handled, handled) for the handled access rights,
> >   to populate the synthetic IOCTL_CMD_G* access rights.
> 
> We can do these transformations directly in the new
> landlock_add_fs_access_mask() and landlock_append_fs_rule().

Working on these changes, the location of these transformations is one of the
last outstanding problems that I don't like yet.

I have added the expansion code to landlock_add_fs_access_mask() and
landlock_append_fs_rule() as you suggested.

This works, but as a result, this (somewhat complicated) expansion logic is now
part of the ruleset.o module, where it seems a bit too FS-specific.  I think
that maybe we can pull this out further, but I'll probably send you a patch set
with the current status before doing that, so that we are on the same page.


> Please base the next series on
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/mic/linux.git/log/?h=next
> This branch might be rebased from time to time, but only minor changes
> will get there.

OK, will do.


In summary, I'll send a patch soon.

FYI, some open questions I still have are:

* Logic
  * How will userspace libraries handle best-effort fallback,
    when expanded IOCTL access rights come into play?
    (Still need to think about this more.)
* Internal code layout
  * Move expansion logic out of ruleset.o module into syscalls.o?
  * Find more appropriate names for IOCTL_CMD_G1,...,IOCTL_CMD_G4

but we can discuss these in the context of the next patch set.

—Günther

  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-03 13:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-14 17:28 [PATCH v3 0/5] Landlock: IOCTL support Günther Noack
2023-08-14 17:28 ` [PATCH v3 1/5] landlock: Add ioctl access right Günther Noack
2023-08-14 17:43   ` Günther Noack
2023-08-14 17:28 ` [PATCH v3 2/5] selftests/landlock: Test ioctl support Günther Noack
2023-08-18 17:06   ` Mickaël Salaün
2023-08-25 15:51     ` Günther Noack
2023-08-25 17:07       ` Mickaël Salaün
2023-09-01 13:35         ` Günther Noack
2023-09-01 20:24           ` Mickaël Salaün
2023-08-14 17:28 ` [PATCH v3 3/5] selftests/landlock: Test ioctl with memfds Günther Noack
2023-08-14 17:28 ` [PATCH v3 4/5] samples/landlock: Add support for LANDLOCK_ACCESS_FS_IOCTL Günther Noack
2023-08-14 17:28 ` [PATCH v3 5/5] landlock: Document ioctl support Günther Noack
2023-08-18 16:28   ` Mickaël Salaün
2023-08-25 11:55     ` Günther Noack
2023-08-18 13:26 ` [PATCH v3 0/5] Landlock: IOCTL support Mickaël Salaün
2023-08-18 13:39 ` Mickaël Salaün
2023-08-25 15:03   ` Günther Noack
2023-08-25 16:50     ` Mickaël Salaün
2023-08-26 18:26       ` Mickaël Salaün
2023-09-02 11:53         ` Günther Noack
2023-09-04 18:08           ` Mickaël Salaün
2023-09-11 10:02             ` Günther Noack
2023-09-11 15:25               ` Mickaël Salaün
2023-09-11 16:34                 ` Mickaël Salaün
2023-10-19 22:09                 ` Günther Noack
2023-10-20 14:57                   ` Mickaël Salaün
2023-10-25 22:07                     ` Günther Noack
2023-10-26 14:55                       ` Mickaël Salaün
2023-11-03 13:06                         ` Günther Noack [this message]
2023-11-03 15:12                           ` Mickaël Salaün
2023-08-22 14:39 ` [PATCH v3 0/5] Landlock: IOCTL support - TTY restrictions RFC Mickaël Salaün

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