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From: Bagas Sanjaya <bagasdotme@gmail.com>
To: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Documentation <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@gmail.com>,
	Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@google.com>,
	David Vernet <void@manifault.com>,
	Miguel Ojeda <ojeda@kernel.org>, James Seo <james@equiv.tech>,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	Federico Vaga <federico.vaga@vaga.pv.it>,
	Carlos Bilbao <carlos.bilbao@amd.com>,
	linux-spdx@vger.kernel.org, Richard Fontana <rfontana@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 1/4] LICENSES: Add SIL Open Font License 1.1
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2023 07:53:07 +0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZUWV88wRf9suUQfH@debian.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2023110317-unhealthy-playable-d5d6@gregkh>

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On Fri, Nov 03, 2023 at 09:49:54AM +0100, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 03, 2023 at 03:11:36PM +0700, Bagas Sanjaya wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 02, 2023 at 03:06:19PM +0100, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > > On Thu, Nov 02, 2023 at 07:00:43PM +0700, Bagas Sanjaya wrote:
> > > >  LICENSES/dual/OFL-1.1 | 107 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > 
> > > You add this license, but then never actually reference it in the later
> > > changes, so it's going to be very confusing as to why it is here.  Any
> > > way to add it to the font files themselves so our checker tools can
> > > handle this properly?
> > 
> > There is TTF name string ID called "License". For example, on IBM Plex Sans,
> > the string value is:
> > 
> > ```
> > This Font Software is licensed under the SIL Open Font License, Version 1.1. This license is available with a FAQ at: http://scripts.sil.org/OFL
> > ```
> > 
> > Checking that string requires scripting fontforge, and since the string value
> > may differ (but has the same license) across different fonts, scripting it
> > can be non-trivial.
> 
> And is that in the files you added?  They are binary so it's hard to
> determine this :(

Yes.

> 
> > > 
> > > And, it's not going to work as a dual-license, you can't just suddenly
> > > dual-license those font files, right?
> > 
> > I was thinking of putting OFL in LICENSES/exceptions instead due to this
> > nature.
> 
> Yes, it can not be a dual one.

That's right!

What about just saying below in the CSS file that includes the fonts?

```
...
/* Some cool fonts are licensed under OFL 1.1, see
 * LICENSES/exceptions/OFL-1.1 for more information. */
...
```
> > > > +Usage-Guide:
> > > > +  Do NOT use this license for code, but it's acceptable for fonts (where the
> > > > +  license is specifically written for them). It's best to use it together
> > > > +  with a GPL2 compatible license using "OR", as OFL-1.1 texts processed by
> > > > +  the kernel's build system might combine it with content taken from more
> > > > +  restrictive licenses.
> > > > +  To use the SIL Open Font License 1.1, put the following SPDX tag/value pair
> > > > +  into a comment according to the placement guidelines in the licensing rules
> > > > +  documentation:
> > > > +    SPDX-License-Identifier: OFL-1.1
> > > 
> > > Where did this Usage-Guide from?
> > 
> > Adapted from LICENSES/dual/CC-BY-4.0.
> 
> Which it shouldn't be :(
> 
> Anyway, this is independent of the issue if we actually should take
> these fonts into the kernel tree, and mandate their use (my opinion is
> no, that's not for us to use, and especially for any action that might
> cause a web browser to look elsewhere outside of our documentation.)
> 
> Also, for documentation, I'm pretty sure that serif fonts is proven to
> be "nicer" overall by many studies.

Any pointer to them? Or do serif fonts more readable and not causing
eye strain?

Thanks.

-- 
An old man doll... just what I always wanted! - Clara

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-04  0:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-02 12:00 [PATCH RFC 0/4] Documentation: Web fonts for kernel documentation Bagas Sanjaya
2023-11-02 12:00 ` [PATCH RFC 1/4] LICENSES: Add SIL Open Font License 1.1 Bagas Sanjaya
2023-11-02 14:06   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-11-03  8:11     ` Bagas Sanjaya
2023-11-03  8:49       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-11-04  0:53         ` Bagas Sanjaya [this message]
2023-11-04  9:52           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-11-05 23:40             ` Bagas Sanjaya
2023-11-02 14:09   ` Richard Fontana
2023-11-03  8:20     ` Bagas Sanjaya
2023-11-02 12:00 ` [PATCH RFC 2/4] Docmentation: Use IBM Plex Sans for page body Bagas Sanjaya
2023-11-02 12:00 ` [PATCH RFC 3/4] Documentation: Use Newsreader font for document headings Bagas Sanjaya
2023-11-02 12:00 ` [PATCH RFC 4/4] Documentation: Use IBM Plex Mono as monospace font Bagas Sanjaya
2023-11-02 12:17 ` [PATCH RFC 0/4] Documentation: Web fonts for kernel documentation Bagas Sanjaya
2023-11-02 16:41 ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-11-03 14:30 ` Christoph Hellwig

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