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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@linux.dev>
Cc: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@gmail.com>,
	Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-bcachefs@vger.kernel.org,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: (subset) [PATCH 22/32] vfs: inode cache conversion to hash-bl
Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2023 07:51:02 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZUautmLUcRyUqZZ+@dread.disaster.area> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231102023615.jsv2ffe4rbivgsja@moria.home.lan>

On Wed, Nov 01, 2023 at 10:36:15PM -0400, Kent Overstreet wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 31, 2023 at 12:02:47PM +0100, Christian Brauner wrote:
> > > The follow up including a statement about "being arsed" once more was
> > > to Christian, not you and was rather "tongue in cheek".
> > 
> > Fyi, I can't be arsed to be talked to like that.
> > 
> > > Whether the patch is ready for reviews and whatnot is your call to
> > > make as the author.
> > 
> > This is basically why that patch never staid in -next. Dave said this
> > patch is meaningless without his other patchs and I had no reason to
> > doubt that claim nor currently the cycles to benchmark and disprove it.
> 
> It was a big benefit to bcachefs performance, and I've had it in my tree
> for quite some time. Was there any other holdup?

Plenty.

- A lack of recent validation against ext4, btrfs and other
filesystems.
- the loss of lockdep coverage by moving to bit locks
- it breaks CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT=y because we nest other spinlocks
  inside the inode_hash_lock and we can't do that if we convert the
  inode hash to bit locks because RT makes spinlocks sleeping locks.
- There's been additions for lockless RCU inode hash lookups from
  AFS and ext4 in weird, uncommon corner cases and I have no idea
  how to validate they still work correctly with hash-bl. I suspect
  they should just go away with hash-bl, but....

There's more, but these are the big ones.

-Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-04 20:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 207+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-09 16:56 [PATCH 00/32] bcachefs - a new COW filesystem Kent Overstreet
2023-05-09 16:56 ` [PATCH 01/32] Compiler Attributes: add __flatten Kent Overstreet
2023-05-09 17:04   ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-05-09 17:24     ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-09 16:56 ` [PATCH 02/32] locking/lockdep: lock_class_is_held() Kent Overstreet
2023-05-09 19:30   ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-05-09 20:11     ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-09 16:56 ` [PATCH 03/32] locking/lockdep: lockdep_set_no_check_recursion() Kent Overstreet
2023-05-09 19:31   ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-05-09 19:57     ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-09 20:18     ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-09 20:27       ` Waiman Long
2023-05-09 20:35         ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-09 21:37           ` Waiman Long
2023-05-10  8:59       ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-05-10 20:38         ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-11  8:25           ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-05-11  9:32             ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-12 20:49         ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-09 16:56 ` [PATCH 04/32] locking: SIX locks (shared/intent/exclusive) Kent Overstreet
2023-05-11 12:14   ` Jan Engelhardt
2023-05-12 20:58     ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-12 22:39       ` Jan Engelhardt
2023-05-12 23:26         ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-12 23:49           ` Randy Dunlap
2023-05-13  0:17             ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-13  0:45               ` Eric Biggers
2023-05-13  0:51                 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-14 12:15   ` Jeff Layton
2023-05-15  2:39     ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-09 16:56 ` [PATCH 05/32] MAINTAINERS: Add entry for six locks Kent Overstreet
2023-05-09 16:56 ` [PATCH 06/32] sched: Add task_struct->faults_disabled_mapping Kent Overstreet
2023-05-10  1:07   ` Jan Kara
2023-05-10  6:18     ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-23 13:34       ` [Cluster-devel] " Jan Kara
2023-05-23 13:34         ` Jan Kara
2023-05-23 16:21         ` [Cluster-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2023-05-23 16:21           ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-05-23 16:35           ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-23 16:35             ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-24  6:43             ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-05-24  6:43               ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-05-24  8:09               ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-24  8:09                 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-25  8:58                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-05-25  8:58                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-05-25 20:50                   ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-25 20:50                     ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-26  8:06                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-05-26  8:06                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-05-26  8:34                       ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-26  8:34                         ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-25 21:40                   ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-25 21:40                     ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-25 22:25           ` Andreas Grünbacher
2023-05-25 22:25             ` Andreas Grünbacher
2023-05-25 23:20             ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-25 23:20               ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-26  0:05               ` Andreas Grünbacher
2023-05-26  0:05                 ` Andreas Grünbacher
2023-05-26  0:39                 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-26  0:39                   ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-26  8:10               ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-05-26  8:10                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-05-26  8:38                 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-26  8:38                   ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-23 16:49         ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-23 16:49           ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-25  8:47           ` [Cluster-devel] " Jan Kara
2023-05-25  8:47             ` Jan Kara
2023-05-25 21:36             ` [Cluster-devel] " Kent Overstreet
2023-05-25 21:36               ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-25 22:45             ` [Cluster-devel] " Andreas Grünbacher
2023-05-25 22:45               ` Andreas Grünbacher
2023-05-25 22:04         ` [Cluster-devel] " Andreas Grünbacher
2023-05-25 22:04           ` Andreas Grünbacher
2023-05-09 16:56 ` [PATCH 07/32] mm: Bring back vmalloc_exec Kent Overstreet
2023-05-09 18:19   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-05-09 20:15     ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-09 20:46   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-05-09 21:12     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-05-09 21:29       ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-10  6:48         ` Eric Biggers
2023-05-12 18:36           ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-13  1:57             ` Eric Biggers
2023-05-13 19:28               ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-14  5:45               ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-14 18:43                 ` Eric Biggers
2023-05-15  5:38                   ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-15  6:13                     ` Eric Biggers
2023-05-15  6:18                       ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-15  7:13                         ` Eric Biggers
2023-05-15  7:26                           ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-21 21:33                             ` Eric Biggers
2023-05-21 22:04                               ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-15 10:29                 ` David Laight
2023-05-10 11:56         ` David Laight
2023-05-09 21:43       ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-05-09 21:54         ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-11  5:33           ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-05-11  5:44             ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-13 13:25       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-05-14 18:39         ` Christophe Leroy
2023-05-14 23:43           ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-15  4:45             ` Christophe Leroy
2023-05-15  5:02               ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-10 14:18   ` Christophe Leroy
2023-05-10 15:05   ` Johannes Thumshirn
2023-05-11 22:28     ` Kees Cook
2023-05-12 18:41       ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-16 21:02         ` Kees Cook
2023-05-16 21:20           ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-16 21:47             ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-05-16 21:57               ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-17  5:28               ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-17 14:04                 ` Mike Rapoport
2023-05-17 14:18                   ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-17 15:44                     ` Mike Rapoport
2023-05-17 15:59                       ` Kent Overstreet
2023-06-17  4:13             ` Andy Lutomirski
2023-06-17 15:34               ` Kent Overstreet
2023-06-17 19:19                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2023-06-17 20:08                   ` Kent Overstreet
2023-06-17 20:35                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2023-06-19 19:45                 ` Kees Cook
2023-06-20  0:39                   ` Kent Overstreet
2023-06-19  9:19   ` Mark Rutland
2023-06-19 10:47     ` Kent Overstreet
2023-06-19 12:47       ` Mark Rutland
2023-06-19 19:17         ` Kent Overstreet
2023-06-20 17:42           ` Andy Lutomirski
2023-06-20 18:08             ` Kent Overstreet
2023-06-20 18:15               ` Andy Lutomirski
2023-06-20 18:48                 ` Dave Hansen
2023-06-20 20:18                   ` Kent Overstreet
2023-06-20 20:42                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2023-06-20 22:32                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2023-06-20 22:43                       ` Nadav Amit
2023-06-21  1:27                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2023-05-09 16:56 ` [PATCH 08/32] fs: factor out d_mark_tmpfile() Kent Overstreet
2023-05-09 16:56 ` [PATCH 09/32] block: Add some exports for bcachefs Kent Overstreet
2023-05-09 16:56 ` [PATCH 10/32] block: Allow bio_iov_iter_get_pages() with bio->bi_bdev unset Kent Overstreet
2023-05-09 16:56 ` [PATCH 11/32] block: Bring back zero_fill_bio_iter Kent Overstreet
2023-05-09 16:56 ` [PATCH 12/32] block: Rework bio_for_each_segment_all() Kent Overstreet
2023-05-09 16:56 ` [PATCH 13/32] block: Rework bio_for_each_folio_all() Kent Overstreet
2023-05-09 16:56 ` [PATCH 14/32] block: Don't block on s_umount from __invalidate_super() Kent Overstreet
2023-05-09 16:56 ` [PATCH 15/32] bcache: move closures to lib/ Kent Overstreet
2023-05-10  1:10   ` Randy Dunlap
2023-05-09 16:56 ` [PATCH 16/32] MAINTAINERS: Add entry for closures Kent Overstreet
2023-05-09 17:05   ` Coly Li
2023-05-09 21:03   ` Randy Dunlap
2023-05-09 16:56 ` [PATCH 17/32] closures: closure_wait_event() Kent Overstreet
2023-05-09 16:56 ` [PATCH 18/32] closures: closure_nr_remaining() Kent Overstreet
2023-05-09 16:56 ` [PATCH 19/32] closures: Add a missing include Kent Overstreet
2023-05-09 16:56 ` [PATCH 20/32] vfs: factor out inode hash head calculation Kent Overstreet
2023-05-23  9:27   ` (subset) " Christian Brauner
2023-05-23 22:53     ` Dave Chinner
2023-05-24  6:44       ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-05-24  7:35         ` Dave Chinner
2023-05-24  8:31           ` Christian Brauner
2023-05-24  8:41             ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-09 16:56 ` [PATCH 21/32] hlist-bl: add hlist_bl_fake() Kent Overstreet
2023-05-10  4:48   ` Dave Chinner
2023-05-23  9:27   ` (subset) " Christian Brauner
2023-05-09 16:56 ` [PATCH 22/32] vfs: inode cache conversion to hash-bl Kent Overstreet
2023-05-10  4:45   ` Dave Chinner
2023-05-16 15:45     ` Christian Brauner
2023-05-16 16:17       ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-16 23:15         ` Dave Chinner
2023-05-22 13:04           ` Christian Brauner
2023-05-23  9:28   ` (subset) " Christian Brauner
2023-10-19 15:30     ` Mateusz Guzik
2023-10-19 15:59       ` Mateusz Guzik
2023-10-20 11:38         ` Dave Chinner
2023-10-20 17:49           ` Mateusz Guzik
2023-10-21 12:13             ` Mateusz Guzik
2023-10-23  5:10             ` Dave Chinner
2023-10-27 17:13               ` Mateusz Guzik
2023-10-27 18:36                 ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-10-31 11:02                 ` Christian Brauner
2023-10-31 11:31                   ` Mateusz Guzik
2023-11-02  2:36                   ` Kent Overstreet
2023-11-04 20:51                     ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2023-05-09 16:56 ` [PATCH 23/32] iov_iter: copy_folio_from_iter_atomic() Kent Overstreet
2023-05-10  2:20   ` kernel test robot
2023-05-11  2:08   ` kernel test robot
2023-05-09 16:56 ` [PATCH 24/32] MAINTAINERS: Add entry for generic-radix-tree Kent Overstreet
2023-05-09 21:03   ` Randy Dunlap
2023-05-09 16:56 ` [PATCH 25/32] lib/generic-radix-tree.c: Don't overflow in peek() Kent Overstreet
2023-05-09 16:56 ` [PATCH 26/32] lib/generic-radix-tree.c: Add a missing include Kent Overstreet
2023-05-09 16:56 ` [PATCH 27/32] lib/generic-radix-tree.c: Add peek_prev() Kent Overstreet
2023-05-09 16:56 ` [PATCH 28/32] stacktrace: Export stack_trace_save_tsk Kent Overstreet
2023-06-19  9:10   ` Mark Rutland
2023-06-19 11:16     ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-09 16:56 ` [PATCH 29/32] lib/string_helpers: string_get_size() now returns characters wrote Kent Overstreet
2023-07-12 19:58   ` Kees Cook
2023-07-12 20:19     ` Kent Overstreet
2023-07-12 22:38       ` Kees Cook
2023-07-12 23:53         ` Kent Overstreet
2023-07-12 20:23     ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-09 16:56 ` [PATCH 30/32] lib: Export errname Kent Overstreet
2023-05-09 16:56 ` [PATCH 31/32] lib: add mean and variance module Kent Overstreet
2023-05-09 16:56 ` [PATCH 32/32] MAINTAINERS: Add entry for bcachefs Kent Overstreet
2023-05-09 21:04   ` Randy Dunlap
2023-05-09 21:07     ` Kent Overstreet
2023-06-15 20:41 ` [PATCH 00/32] bcachefs - a new COW filesystem Pavel Machek
2023-06-15 21:26   ` Kent Overstreet

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