From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Huan Yang <link@vivo.com>
Cc: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC 0/4] Introduce unbalance proactive reclaim
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2023 11:39:54 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZUy2-vrqDq7URzb6@tiehlicka> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6b539e16-c835-49ff-9fae-a65960567657@vivo.com>
On Thu 09-11-23 18:29:03, Huan Yang wrote:
> HI Michal Hocko,
>
> Thanks for your suggestion.
>
> 在 2023/11/9 17:57, Michal Hocko 写道:
> > [Some people who received this message don't often get email from mhocko@suse.com. Learn why this is important at https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification ]
> >
> > On Thu 09-11-23 11:38:56, Huan Yang wrote:
> > [...]
> > > > If so, is it better only to reclaim private anonymous pages explicitly?
> > > Yes, in practice, we only proactively compress anonymous pages and do not
> > > want to touch file pages.
> > If that is the case and this is mostly application centric (which you
> > seem to be suggesting) then why don't you use madvise(MADV_PAGEOUT)
> > instead.
> Madvise may not be applicable in this scenario.(IMO)
>
> This feature is aimed at a core goal, which is to compress the anonymous
> pages
> of frozen applications.
>
> How to detect that an application is frozen and determine which pages can be
> safely reclaimed is the responsibility of the policy part.
>
> Setting madvise for an application is an active behavior, while the above
> policy
> is a passive approach.(If I misunderstood, please let me know if there is a
> better
> way to set madvise.)
You are proposing an extension to the pro-active reclaim interface so
this is an active behavior pretty much by definition. So I am really not
following you here. Your agent can simply scan the address space of the
application it is going to "freeze" and call pidfd_madvise(MADV_PAGEOUT)
on the private memory is that is really what you want/need.
--
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-11-09 10:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-11-08 6:58 [RFC 0/4] Introduce unbalance proactive reclaim Huan Yang
2023-11-08 6:58 ` [PATCH 1/4] mm: vmscan: LRU unbalance cgroup reclaim Huan Yang
2023-11-08 6:58 ` [PATCH 2/4] mm: multi-gen LRU: MGLRU unbalance reclaim Huan Yang
2023-11-08 12:34 ` kernel test robot
2023-11-09 11:08 ` kernel test robot
2023-12-04 6:53 ` Dan Carpenter
2023-11-08 6:58 ` [PATCH 3/4] mm: memcg: implement unbalance proactive reclaim Huan Yang
2023-11-08 6:58 ` [PATCH 4/4] mm: memcg: apply proactive reclaim into cgroupv1 Huan Yang
2023-11-08 21:06 ` kernel test robot
2023-11-08 7:35 ` [RFC 0/4] Introduce unbalance proactive reclaim Huang, Ying
2023-11-08 7:53 ` Huan Yang
2023-11-08 8:09 ` Huang, Ying
2023-11-08 8:14 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-11-08 8:21 ` Huan Yang
2023-11-08 9:00 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-11-08 9:05 ` Huan Yang
2023-11-08 8:00 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-11-08 8:26 ` Huan Yang
2023-11-08 8:59 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-11-08 9:12 ` Huan Yang
2023-11-08 14:06 ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-09 1:56 ` Huan Yang
2023-11-09 3:15 ` Huang, Ying
2023-11-09 3:38 ` Huan Yang
2023-11-09 9:57 ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-09 10:29 ` Huan Yang
2023-11-09 10:39 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2023-11-09 10:50 ` Huan Yang
2023-11-09 12:40 ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-09 13:07 ` Huan Yang
2023-11-09 13:46 ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-10 3:48 ` Huan Yang
2023-11-10 12:24 ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-13 2:17 ` Huan Yang
2023-11-13 6:10 ` Huang, Ying
2023-11-13 6:28 ` Huan Yang
2023-11-13 8:05 ` Huang, Ying
2023-11-13 8:26 ` Huan Yang
2023-11-14 9:54 ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-14 9:56 ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-15 6:52 ` Huang, Ying
2023-11-14 9:50 ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-10 1:19 ` Huang, Ying
2023-11-10 2:44 ` Huan Yang
2023-11-10 4:00 ` Huang, Ying
2023-11-10 6:21 ` Huan Yang
2023-11-10 12:32 ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-13 1:54 ` Huan Yang
2023-11-14 10:04 ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-14 12:37 ` Huan Yang
2023-11-14 13:03 ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-15 2:11 ` Huan Yang
2023-11-09 9:53 ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-09 10:55 ` Huan Yang
2023-11-09 12:45 ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-09 13:10 ` Huan Yang
2023-11-08 16:14 ` Andrew Morton
2023-11-09 1:58 ` Huan Yang
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