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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Charan Teja Kalla <quic_charante@quicinc.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, mgorman@techsingularity.net,
	david@redhat.com, vbabka@suse.cz, hannes@cmpxchg.org,
	quic_pkondeti@quicinc.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3 3/3] mm: page_alloc: drain pcp lists before oom kill
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2023 11:48:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZVNQdQKQAMjgOK9y@tiehlicka> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5c7f25f9-f86b-8e15-8603-e212b9911cac@quicinc.com>

On Fri 10-11-23 22:06:22, Charan Teja Kalla wrote:
> Thanks Michal!!
> 
> On 11/9/2023 4:03 PM, Michal Hocko wrote:
> >> VM system running with ~50MB of memory shown the below stats during OOM
> >> kill:
> >> Normal free:760kB boost:0kB min:768kB low:960kB high:1152kB
> >> reserved_highatomic:0KB managed:49152kB free_pcp:460kB
> >>
> >> Though in such system state OOM kill is imminent, but the current kill
> >> could have been delayed if the pcp is drained as pcp + free is even
> >> above the high watermark.
> > TBH I am not sure this is really worth it. Does it really reduce the
> > risk of the OOM in any practical situation?
> 
> At least in my particular stress test case it just delayed the OOM as i
> can see that at the time of OOM kill, there are no free pcp pages. My
> understanding of the OOM is that it should be the last resort and only
> after doing the enough reclaim retries. CMIW here.

Yes it is a last resort but it is a heuristic as well. So the real
questoin is whether this makes any practical difference outside of
artificial workloads. I do not see anything particularly worrying to
drain the pcp cache but it should be noted that this won't be 100%
either as racing freeing of memory will end up on pcp lists first.

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs


  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-14 10:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-05 12:50 [PATCH V2 0/3] mm: page_alloc: fixes for early oom kills Charan Teja Kalla
2023-11-05 12:50 ` [PATCH V2 1/3] mm: page_alloc: unreserve highatomic page blocks before oom Charan Teja Kalla
2023-11-09 10:29   ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-05 12:50 ` [PATCH V2 2/3] mm: page_alloc: correct high atomic reserve calculations Charan Teja Kalla
2023-11-16  9:59   ` Mel Gorman
2023-11-16 12:52     ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-17 16:19       ` Mel Gorman
2023-11-05 12:50 ` [PATCH V3 3/3] mm: page_alloc: drain pcp lists before oom kill Charan Teja Kalla
2023-11-05 12:55   ` Charan Teja Kalla
2023-11-09 10:33   ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-10 16:36     ` Charan Teja Kalla
2023-11-14 10:48       ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2023-11-14 16:36         ` Charan Teja Kalla
2023-11-15 14:09           ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-16  6:00             ` Charan Teja Kalla
2023-11-16 12:55               ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-17  5:43                 ` Charan Teja Kalla
2024-01-25 16:36           ` Zach O'Keefe
2024-01-26 10:47             ` Charan Teja Kalla
2024-01-26 10:57               ` Michal Hocko
2024-01-26 22:51                 ` Zach O'Keefe
2024-01-29 15:04                   ` Michal Hocko
2024-02-06 23:15                     ` Zach O'Keefe

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