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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Yunsheng Lin <linyunsheng@huawei.com>
Cc: "Mina Almasry" <almasrymina@google.com>,
	"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	davem@davemloft.net, pabeni@redhat.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Willem de Bruijn" <willemb@google.com>,
	"Kaiyuan Zhang" <kaiyuanz@google.com>,
	"Jesper Dangaard Brouer" <hawk@kernel.org>,
	"Ilias Apalodimas" <ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org>,
	"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	"Matthew Wilcox" <willy@infradead.org>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 3/8] memory-provider: dmabuf devmem memory provider
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2023 11:31:47 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZVY14zBmi1wgZBiw@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0a1cdd5a-c4c5-3d77-20a2-2beb8e3a6411@huawei.com>

On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 07:10:01PM +0800, Yunsheng Lin wrote:
> On 2023/11/15 21:38, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 05:21:02PM +0800, Yunsheng Lin wrote:
> > 
> >>>>> I would expect net stack, page pool, driver still see the 'struct page',
> >>>>> only memory provider see the specific struct for itself, for the above,
> >>>>> devmem memory provider sees the 'struct page_pool_iov'.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The reason I still expect driver to see the 'struct page' is that driver
> >>>>> will still need to support normal memory besides devmem.
> >>>
> >>> I wouldn't say this approach is unreasonable, but it does have to be
> >>> done carefully to isolate the mm. Keeping the struct page in the API
> >>> is going to make this very hard.
> >>
> >> I would expect that most of the isolation is done in page pool, as far as
> >> I can see:
> > 
> > It is the sort of thing that is important enough it should have
> > compiler help via types to prove that it is being done
> > properly. Otherwise it will be full of mistakes over time.
> 
> Yes, agreed.
> 
> I have done something similar as willy has done for some of
> folio conversion as below:

That is not at all what I mean, I mean you should not use
struct page * types at all in code that flows from the _iov version
except via limited accessors that can be audited and have appropriate
assertions.

Just releasing struct page * that is not a struct page * everywhere
without type safety will never be correct long term.

Jason


  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-16 15:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-13 13:00 [PATCH RFC 0/8] A possible proposal for intergating dmabuf to page pool Yunsheng Lin
2023-11-13 13:00 ` [PATCH RFC 1/8] net: page_pool: factor out releasing DMA from releasing the page Yunsheng Lin
2023-11-13 13:00 ` [PATCH RFC 2/8] net: page_pool: create hooks for custom page providers Yunsheng Lin
2023-11-13 13:00 ` [PATCH RFC 3/8] memory-provider: dmabuf devmem memory provider Yunsheng Lin
2023-11-13 13:42   ` Mina Almasry
2023-11-13 23:05     ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-14  8:23       ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-11-14 12:21         ` Mina Almasry
2023-11-14 12:49           ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-11-14 12:58             ` Mina Almasry
2023-11-14 13:19               ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-11-14 15:41                 ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-11-15  9:29                   ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-11-15 18:07                     ` Mina Almasry
2023-11-15 19:05                       ` Mina Almasry
2023-11-16 11:12                         ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-11-16 11:30                           ` Mina Almasry
2023-11-14 13:16           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-11-15  6:46             ` Christian König
2023-11-15  9:21             ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-11-15 13:38               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-11-16 11:10                 ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-11-16 15:31                   ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2023-11-15 17:44               ` Mina Almasry
2023-11-16 11:11                 ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-11-15 17:57               ` David Ahern
2023-11-16 11:12                 ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-11-16 15:58                   ` David Ahern
2023-11-17 11:27                     ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-11-14 22:25         ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-15  9:33           ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-11-13 13:00 ` [PATCH RFC 4/8] skbuff: explicitize the semantics of skb_frag_fill_page_desc() Yunsheng Lin
2023-11-13 13:00 ` [PATCH RFC 5/8] skbuff: remove compound_head() related function calling Yunsheng Lin
2023-11-13 13:00 ` [PATCH RFC 6/8] skbuff: always try to do page pool frag reference counting Yunsheng Lin
2023-11-13 13:00 ` [PATCH RFC 7/8] net: hns3: temp hack for hns3 to use dmabuf memory provider Yunsheng Lin
2023-11-13 13:00 ` [PATCH RFC 8/8] net: temp hack for dmabuf page in __skb_datagram_iter() Yunsheng Lin

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