From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: Steven Sistare <steven.sistare@oracle.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Juan Quintela" <quintela@redhat.com>,
"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Thomas Huth" <thuth@redhat.com>,
"Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
"Fabiano Rosas" <farosas@suse.de>,
"Leonardo Bras" <leobras@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V5 02/12] cpus: stop vm in suspended state
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2023 16:44:50 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZVvTUuNYzGgFcg4m@x1n> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e32d4434-c877-4f98-ac76-da8fa292395c@oracle.com>
On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 03:55:54PM -0500, Steven Sistare wrote:
> If we drop force, then all calls to vm_stop will completely stop the
> suspended state, eg an hmp "stop" command. This causes two problems.
> First, that is a change in user-visible behavior for something that
> currently works,
IMHO it depends on what should be the correct behavior. IOW, when VM is in
SUSPENDED state and then the user sends "stop" QMP command, what should we
expect?
My understanding is we should expect to fully stop the VM, including the
ticks, for example. Keeping the ticks running even after QMP "stop"
doesn't sound right, isn't it?
> vs the migration code where we are fixing brokenness.
This is not a migration-only bug if above holds, IMO.
> Second, it does not quite work, because the state becomes
> RUN_STATE_PAUSED, so the suspended state is forgotten, and the hmp "cont"
> will try to set the running state. I could fix that by introducing a new
> state RUN_STATE_SUSPENDED_STOPPED, but again it is a user-visible change
> in existing behavior. (I even implemented that while developing, then I
> realized it was not needed to fix the migration bugs.)
Good point.
Now with above comments, what's your thoughts on whether we should change
the user behavior? My answer is still a yes.
Maybe SUSPENDED should not be a RunState at all? SUSPENDED is guest visible
behavior, while something like QMP "stop" is not guest visible. Maybe we
should remember it separately?
It means qemu_system_suspend() could remember that in a separate field (as
part of guest state), then when wakeup we should conditionally go back
with/without vcpus running depending on the new "suspended" state.
--
Peter Xu
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-11-20 21:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-11-13 18:33 [PATCH V5 00/12] fix migration of suspended runstate Steve Sistare
2023-11-13 18:33 ` [PATCH V5 01/12] cpus: refactor vm_stop Steve Sistare
2023-11-20 13:22 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-11-20 19:09 ` Steven Sistare
2023-11-20 19:46 ` Peter Xu
2023-11-20 19:49 ` Steven Sistare
2023-11-20 20:01 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-11-13 18:33 ` [PATCH V5 02/12] cpus: stop vm in suspended state Steve Sistare
2023-11-20 14:15 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-11-20 19:10 ` Steven Sistare
2023-11-20 19:59 ` Peter Xu
2023-11-20 20:47 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-11-20 21:26 ` Steven Sistare
2023-11-20 20:55 ` Steven Sistare
2023-11-20 21:44 ` Peter Xu [this message]
2023-11-21 21:21 ` Steven Sistare
2023-11-21 22:47 ` Peter Xu
2023-11-22 9:38 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-11-22 16:21 ` Peter Xu
2023-11-28 13:26 ` Steven Sistare
2023-11-13 18:33 ` [PATCH V5 03/12] cpus: pass runstate to vm_prepare_start Steve Sistare
2023-11-13 18:33 ` [PATCH V5 04/12] cpus: start vm in suspended state Steve Sistare
2023-11-20 17:20 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-11-13 18:33 ` [PATCH V5 05/12] migration: preserve suspended runstate Steve Sistare
2023-11-20 17:30 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-11-13 18:33 ` [PATCH V5 06/12] migration: preserve suspended for snapshot Steve Sistare
2023-11-20 18:13 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-11-20 19:10 ` Steven Sistare
2023-11-13 18:33 ` [PATCH V5 07/12] migration: preserve suspended for bg_migration Steve Sistare
2023-11-20 18:18 ` Fabiano Rosas
2023-11-13 18:33 ` [PATCH V5 08/12] tests/qtest: migration events Steve Sistare
2023-11-13 18:33 ` [PATCH V5 09/12] tests/qtest: option to suspend during migration Steve Sistare
2023-11-13 18:33 ` [PATCH V5 10/12] tests/qtest: precopy migration with suspend Steve Sistare
2023-11-13 18:33 ` [PATCH V5 11/12] tests/qtest: postcopy " Steve Sistare
2023-11-13 18:34 ` [PATCH V5 12/12] tests/qtest: background " Steve Sistare
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