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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, hannes@cmpxchg.org,
	cerasuolodomenico@gmail.com, yosryahmed@google.com,
	sjenning@redhat.com, ddstreet@ieee.org, vitaly.wool@konsulko.com,
	roman.gushchin@linux.dev, shakeelb@google.com,
	muchun.song@linux.dev, chrisl@kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	kernel-team@meta.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org, shuah@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 2/6] memcontrol: allows mem_cgroup_iter() to check for onlineness
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2023 10:18:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZWcB_r8ywytCFR8B@tiehlicka> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKEwX=OGtkqWys9VM9EBScoCdAjSdfPjEkvoY7_u9udDZBFFpw@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue 28-11-23 08:53:56, Nhat Pham wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 1:38 AM Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon 27-11-23 11:36:59, Nhat Pham wrote:
> > > The new zswap writeback scheme requires an online-only memcg hierarchy
> > > traversal. Add a new parameter to mem_cgroup_iter() to check for
> > > onlineness before returning.
> >
> > Why is this needed?
> 
> For context, in patch 3 of this series, Domenico and I are adding
> cgroup-aware LRU to zswap, so that we can perform workload-specific
> zswap writeback. When the reclaim happens due to the global zswap
> limit being hit, a cgroup is selected by the mem_cgroup_iter(), and
> the last one selected is saved in the zswap pool (so that the
> iteration can follow from there next time the limit is hit).
> 
> However, one problem with this scheme is we will be pinning the
> reference to that saved memcg until the next global reclaim attempt,
> which could prevent it from being killed for quite some time after it
> has been offlined. Johannes, Yosry, and I discussed a couple of
> approaches for a while, and decided to add a callback that would
> release the reference held by the zswap pool when the memcg is
> offlined, and the zswap pool will obtain the reference to the next
> online memcg in the traversal (or at least one that has not had the
> zswap-memcg-release-callback run on it yet).

This should be a part of the changelog along with an explanation why
this cannot be handled on the caller level? You have a pin on the memcg,
you can check it is online and scratch it if not, right? Why do we need
to make a rather convoluted iterator interface more complex when most
users simply do not require that?

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-11-29  9:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-27 19:36 [PATCH v6 0/6] workload-specific and memory pressure-driven zswap writeback Nhat Pham
2023-11-27 19:36 ` [PATCH v6 1/6] list_lru: allows explicit memcg and NUMA node selection Nhat Pham
2023-11-27 22:46   ` [PATCH v6 1/6] list_lru: allows explicit memcg and NUMA node selection (fix) Nhat Pham
2023-11-27 23:40     ` Nhat Pham
2023-11-27 19:36 ` [PATCH v6 2/6] memcontrol: allows mem_cgroup_iter() to check for onlineness Nhat Pham
2023-11-27 21:42   ` Andrew Morton
2023-11-27 22:34     ` Nhat Pham
2023-11-28  9:38   ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-28 16:53     ` Nhat Pham
2023-11-28 16:58       ` Nhat Pham
2023-11-29  9:18       ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2023-11-30  0:47         ` Nhat Pham
2023-11-27 19:37 ` [PATCH v6 3/6] zswap: make shrinking memcg-aware Nhat Pham
2023-11-27 19:37 ` [PATCH v6 4/6] mm: memcg: add per-memcg zswap writeback stat Nhat Pham
2023-11-27 19:37 ` [PATCH v6 5/6] selftests: cgroup: update per-memcg zswap writeback selftest Nhat Pham
2023-11-27 19:37 ` [PATCH v6 6/6] zswap: shrinks zswap pool based on memory pressure Nhat Pham
2023-11-27 21:00   ` Andrew Morton
2023-11-28 23:04     ` Nhat Pham

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