From: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>
Cc: ezra@synergy-village.org, Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
Tristram Ha <Tristram.Ha@microchip.com>,
Michael Walle <michael@walle.cc>,
Jesse Brandeburg <jesse.brandeburg@intel.com>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net] net: mdio: Prevent Clause 45 scan on SMSC PHYs
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2024 12:02:09 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZZP7QQqScrq6JDg6@shell.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <77fa1435-58e3-4fe1-b860-288ed143e7bc@gmail.com>
On Mon, Jan 01, 2024 at 11:44:38PM +0100, Heiner Kallweit wrote:
> On 01.01.2024 22:31, Ezra Buehler wrote:
> > Since commit 1a136ca2e089 ("net: mdio: scan bus based on bus
> > capabilities for C22 and C45") our AT91SAM9G25-based GARDENA smart
> > Gateway will no longer boot.
> >
> > Prior to the mentioned change, probe_capabilities would be set to
> > MDIOBUS_NO_CAP (0) and therefore, no Clause 45 scan was performed.
> > Running a Clause 45 scan on an SMSC/Microchip LAN8720A PHY will (at
> > least with our setup) considerably slow down kernel startup and
> > ultimately result in a board reset.
> >
> > AFAICT all SMSC/Microchip PHYs are Clause 22 devices. Some have a
> > "Clause 45 protection" feature (e.g. LAN8830) and others like the
> > LAN8804 will explicitly state the following in the datasheet:
> >
> > This device may respond to Clause 45 accesses and so must not be
> > mixed with Clause 45 devices on the same MDIO bus.
> >
>
> I'm not convinced that some heuristic based on vendors is a
> sustainable approach. Also I'd like to avoid (as far as possible)
> that core code includes vendor driver headers. Maybe we could use
> a new PHY driver flag. Approaches I could think of:
>
> Approach 1:
> Add a PHY driver flag to state: PHY is not c45-access-safe
> Then c45 scanning would be omitted if at least one c22 PHY
> with this flag was found.
>
> Approach 2:
> Add a PHY driver flag to state: PHY is c45-access-safe
> Then c45 scanning would only be done if all found c22 devices
Anything based on PHY driver flags isn't going to work - the scan
happens _before_ we know what is on the bus and _before_ we have
any devices to even think about probing drivers (which could even
be in a module on a filesystem that has yet to be mounted.)
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-01-02 12:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-01-01 21:31 [PATCH net] net: mdio: Prevent Clause 45 scan on SMSC PHYs Ezra Buehler
2024-01-01 22:44 ` Heiner Kallweit
2024-01-02 8:50 ` Michael Walle
2024-01-02 9:14 ` Heiner Kallweit
2024-01-02 12:02 ` Russell King (Oracle) [this message]
2024-01-02 13:42 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-01-02 14:00 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-01-02 14:04 ` Ezra Buehler
2024-01-02 14:06 ` Heiner Kallweit
2024-01-02 15:50 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-01-02 18:08 ` Ezra Buehler
2024-01-02 18:57 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-01-06 12:41 ` Ezra Buehler
2024-01-06 15:20 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-01-07 13:51 ` Ezra Buehler
2024-01-02 19:49 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-01-02 20:05 ` Ezra Buehler
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