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From: Mikko Rapeli <mikko.rapeli@linaro.org>
To: Richard Purdie <richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org
Subject: Re: [OE-core] [PATCH v3 03/11] kernel.bbclass: add kernel-initrd-modules meta package
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2025 16:00:50 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z_fBAsbV-hY-x_SC@nuoska> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1c55e7536de5f36fa37076ad04ff35588b6b5f1e.camel@linuxfoundation.org>

Hi,

On Thu, Apr 10, 2025 at 01:42:12PM +0100, Richard Purdie wrote:
> On Fri, 2025-04-04 at 19:29 +0300, Mikko Rapeli via lists.openembedded.org wrote:
> > At the moment linux-yocto kernels for various architectures
> > are not very modular and a lot of drivers are built into the kernel
> > even when they are not needed at runtime. These make the main kernel
> > binary big and slow to boot. This also impacts udev in userspace
> > which takes a long time processing events from all these built in drivers,
> > for example when udev runs in initrd.
> > 
> > Then constructing the initrd is very device and kernel configuration specific.
> > initrd image needs explicitly define which binary packages to install
> > to avoid pulling in complex dependencies. A full set of kernel modules
> > via kernel-modules meta package is too big for initrd and most of the
> > drivers are not needed for use cases like "just load modules to mount
> > main rootfs". Then the initrd configuration breaks if kernel driver
> > is built into the kernel since the binary package doesn't exist.
> > 
> > Introduce kernel-initrd-modules meta package to solve these problems.
> > The meta package adds dependencies to real kernel modules based on
> > the kernel module file paths so that it will include several
> > kernel subsystems and their drivers which are often needed to find
> > main rootfs from some block device. This works when drivers are built
> > as modules but does not break if drivers are built into the kernel.
> > 
> > The resulting initrd is also smaller since only a subset of drivers
> > are needed for "mount the rootfs" usecase. Tested on genericarm64
> > kernel and qemu and AMD KV260 HW.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Mikko Rapeli <mikko.rapeli@linaro.org>
> > ---
> > �.../kernel-module-split.bbclass�������������� | 48 +++++++++++++++++++
> > �meta/classes-recipe/kernel.bbclass����������� |� 5 +-
> > �meta/classes-recipe/module.bbclass����������� | 37 ++++++++++++++
> > �3 files changed, 89 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/meta/classes-recipe/kernel-module-split.bbclass b/meta/classes-recipe/kernel-module-split.bbclass
> > index 9487365eb7..101c5cd959 100644
> > --- a/meta/classes-recipe/kernel-module-split.bbclass
> > +++ b/meta/classes-recipe/kernel-module-split.bbclass
> > @@ -42,6 +42,40 @@ KERNEL_MODULE_PACKAGE_PREFIX ?= ""
> > �KERNEL_MODULE_PACKAGE_SUFFIX ?= "-${KERNEL_VERSION}"
> > �KERNEL_MODULE_PROVIDE_VIRTUAL ?= "1"
> > �
> > +# subset of kernel modules needed in initrd, to e.g. mount rootfs from block device
> > +KERNEL_INITRD_MODULES_META_PACKAGE ?= "${@ d.getVar("KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME") or "kernel" }-initrd-modules"
> > +
> > +# match regex to path or file name. E.g. include all drivers with files in path /drivers/ata/
> > +KERNEL_INITRD_MODULES_REGEX ?= "(.*)(\
> > +/drivers/acpi/|\
> > +/drivers/ata/|\
> > +/drivers/block/|\
> > +/drivers/cdrom/|\
> > +/drivers/char/hw_random/|\
> > +/drivers/char/tpm/|\
> > +/drivers/char/|\
> > +/drivers/crypto/|\
> > +/drivers/dax/|\
> > +/drivers/firmware/arm_scmi/|\
> > +/drivers/gpu/drm/|\
> > +/drivers/md/|\
> > +/drivers/mmc/|\
> > +/drivers/mtd/|\
> > +/drivers/nvdimm/|\
> > +/drivers/nvme/|\
> > +/drivers/pci/|\
> > +/drivers/scsi/|\
> > +/drivers/tee/|\
> > +/drivers/tty/serial/|\
> > +/drivers/virtio/|\
> > +/drivers/watchdog/|\
> > +/kernel/arch/|\
> > +/kernel/block/|\
> > +/kernel/crypto/|\
> > +/kernel/fs/|\
> > +/kernel/lib/\
> > +)(.*)"
> > +
> > �python split_kernel_module_packages () {
> > ���� import re
> > �
> > @@ -183,6 +217,20 @@ python split_kernel_module_packages () {
> > ���� modules = do_split_packages(d, root='${nonarch_base_libdir}/modules', file_regex=module_regex, output_pattern=module_pattern, description='%s kernel module', postinst=postinst, postrm=postrm, recursive=True, hook=frob_metadata, extra_depends='%s-%s' % (kernel_package_name, kernel_version))
> > ���� if modules:
> > �������� d.appendVar('RDEPENDS:' + metapkg, ' '+' '.join(modules))
> > +
> > +��� initrd_metapkg = d.getVar('KERNEL_INITRD_MODULES_META_PACKAGE') or ""
> > +��� initrd_module_regex = d.getVar('KERNEL_INITRD_MODULES_REGEX') or ""
> > +��� if (initrd_metapkg != "") and (initrd_module_regex != ""):
> > +������� initrd_module_regex = re.compile(initrd_module_regex)
> > +������� initrd_modules = []
> > +������� for module in modules:
> > +����������� files = d.getVar('FILES:' + module)
> > +����������� m = re.match(initrd_module_regex, files)
> > +����������� if m:
> > +��������������� initrd_modules.append(module)
> > +
> > +������� if initrd_modules:
> > +����������� d.appendVar('RDEPENDS:' + initrd_metapkg, ' '+' '.join(initrd_modules))
> > �}
> > �
> > �do_package[vardeps] += '${@" ".join(map(lambda s: "module_conf_" + s, (d.getVar("KERNEL_MODULE_PROBECONF") or "").split()))}'
> > diff --git a/meta/classes-recipe/kernel.bbclass b/meta/classes-recipe/kernel.bbclass
> > index 36ce659762..3dcaebcaed 100644
> > --- a/meta/classes-recipe/kernel.bbclass
> > +++ b/meta/classes-recipe/kernel.bbclass
> > @@ -695,13 +695,14 @@ EXPORT_FUNCTIONS do_compile do_transform_kernel do_transform_bundled_initramfs d
> > �
> > �# kernel-base becomes kernel-${KERNEL_VERSION}
> > �# kernel-image becomes kernel-image-${KERNEL_VERSION}
> > -PACKAGES = "${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME} ${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME}-base ${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME}-vmlinux ${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME}-image ${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME}-dev ${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME}-modules ${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME}-dbg"
> > +PACKAGES = "${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME} ${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME}-base ${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME}-vmlinux ${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME}-image ${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME}-dev ${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME}-modules ${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME}-initrd-modules ${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME}-dbg"
> > �FILES:${PN} = ""
> > �FILES:${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME}-base = "${nonarch_base_libdir}/modules/${KERNEL_VERSION}/modules.order ${nonarch_base_libdir}/modules/${KERNEL_VERSION}/modules.builtin ${nonarch_base_libdir}/modules/${KERNEL_VERSION}/modules.builtin.modinfo"
> > �FILES:${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME}-image = ""
> > �FILES:${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME}-dev = "/${KERNEL_IMAGEDEST}/System.map* /${KERNEL_IMAGEDEST}/Module.symvers* /${KERNEL_IMAGEDEST}/config* ${KERNEL_SRC_PATH} ${nonarch_base_libdir}/modules/${KERNEL_VERSION}/build"
> > �FILES:${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME}-vmlinux = "/${KERNEL_IMAGEDEST}/vmlinux-${KERNEL_VERSION_NAME}"
> > �FILES:${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME}-modules = ""
> > +FILES:${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME}-initrd-modules = ""
> > �FILES:${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME}-dbg = "/usr/lib/debug /usr/src/debug"
> > �RDEPENDS:${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME} = "${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME}-base (= ${EXTENDPKGV})"
> > �# Allow machines to override this dependency if kernel image files are
> > @@ -716,7 +717,9 @@ ALLOW_EMPTY:${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME} = "1"
> > �ALLOW_EMPTY:${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME}-base = "1"
> > �ALLOW_EMPTY:${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME}-image = "1"
> > �ALLOW_EMPTY:${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME}-modules = "1"
> > +ALLOW_EMPTY:${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME}-initrd-modules = "1"
> > �DESCRIPTION:${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME}-modules = "Kernel modules meta package"
> > +DESCRIPTION:${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME}-initrd-modules = "Kernel initrd modules meta package"
> > �
> > �pkg_postinst:${KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME}-base () {
> > �	if [ ! -e "$D/lib/modules/${KERNEL_VERSION}" ]; then
> > diff --git a/meta/classes-recipe/module.bbclass b/meta/classes-recipe/module.bbclass
> > index f2f0b25a2d..51f864f1f9 100644
> > --- a/meta/classes-recipe/module.bbclass
> > +++ b/meta/classes-recipe/module.bbclass
> > @@ -86,3 +86,40 @@ EXPORT_FUNCTIONS do_compile do_install
> > �KERNEL_MODULES_META_PACKAGE = "${PN}"
> > �FILES:${PN} = ""
> > �ALLOW_EMPTY:${PN} = "1"
> > +
> > +# subset of kernel modules needed in initrd, to e.g. mount rootfs from block device
> > +KERNEL_INITRD_MODULES_META_PACKAGE ?= "${@ d.getVar("KERNEL_PACKAGE_NAME") or "kernel" }-initrd-modules"
> > +
> > +# match regex to path or file name. E.g. include all drivers with files in path /drivers/ata/
> > +KERNEL_INITRD_MODULES_REGEX ?= "(.*)(\
> > +/drivers/acpi/|\
> > +/drivers/ata/|\
> > +/drivers/block/|\
> > +/drivers/cdrom/|\
> > +/drivers/char/hw_random/|\
> > +/drivers/char/tpm/|\
> > +/drivers/char/|\
> > +/drivers/crypto/|\
> > +/drivers/dax/|\
> > +/drivers/firmware/arm_scmi/|\
> > +/drivers/gpu/drm/|\
> > +/drivers/md/|\
> > +/drivers/mmc/|\
> > +/drivers/mtd/|\
> > +/drivers/nvdimm/|\
> > +/drivers/nvme/|\
> > +/drivers/pci/|\
> > +/drivers/scsi/|\
> > +/drivers/tee/|\
> > +/drivers/tty/serial/|\
> > +/drivers/virtio/|\
> > +/drivers/watchdog/|\
> > +/kernel/arch/|\
> > +/kernel/block/|\
> > +/kernel/crypto/|\
> > +/kernel/fs/|\
> > +/kernel/lib/\
> > +)(.*)"
> > +
> > +FILES:${PN}-initrd = ""
> > +ALLOW_EMPTY:${PN}-initrd = "1"
> 
> What is the difference between the variable defined in kernel-module-
> split.bbclass and this one in module.bbclass? Do we need/want to
> separate but seemingly similar definitions?

One is for kernel compilation and in-tree drivers, the other is for
out-of-tree modules.

The "kernel-modules" meta package is handled this way too, with
duplication in both.

Bruce says this should be moved to linux-yocto kernel recipe,
which IMO breaks the use of kernel-initrd-modules for vendor kernel recipes
outside of oe-core. I'd rather support them too to e.g. more easily boot
qemu or run oeqa selftests with qemu.

Cheers,

-Mikko


  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-10 13:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-04 16:29 [PATCH v3 00/11] systemd based initrd and modular kernel support Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-04 16:29 ` [PATCH v3 01/11] systemd: enable efi support by default Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-10 10:16   ` [OE-core] " Adrian Freihofer
2025-04-10 11:12     ` Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-10 11:45     ` Ilias Apalodimas
2025-04-10 12:12       ` Ilias Apalodimas
2025-04-10 17:44         ` Alexander Kanavin
2025-04-10 17:48           ` Ilias Apalodimas
2025-04-10 19:19             ` Alexander Kanavin
2025-04-11 10:56               ` Ilias Apalodimas
2025-04-10 20:53         ` Adrian Freihofer
2025-04-11 10:38           ` Ilias Apalodimas
2025-04-10 12:13       ` Alexander Kanavin
2025-04-10 12:54         ` Ilias Apalodimas
2025-04-10 14:20           ` Alexander Kanavin
2025-04-10 14:38             ` Ilias Apalodimas
2025-04-10 14:51               ` Alexander Kanavin
2025-04-10 15:16                 ` Ilias Apalodimas
2025-04-10 15:27                 ` Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-11  8:40   ` Mike Looijmans
2025-04-11 10:45     ` Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-11 11:08       ` mike.looijmans
2025-04-14 16:28         ` Adrian Freihofer
2025-04-15  9:51           ` Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-15 10:39             ` Jose Quaresma
2025-04-15 16:20             ` Peter Kjellerstedt
2025-04-16  6:08               ` Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-16  9:07                 ` Koen Kooi
2025-04-16 10:10                 ` Adrian Freihofer
2025-04-16 12:54                 ` Peter Kjellerstedt
2025-04-04 16:29 ` [PATCH v3 02/11] uki.bbclass: drop serial console from kernel command line Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-04 16:29 ` [PATCH v3 03/11] kernel.bbclass: add kernel-initrd-modules meta package Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-08  3:42   ` [OE-core] " Bruce Ashfield
2025-04-10 12:42   ` Richard Purdie
2025-04-10 13:00     ` Mikko Rapeli [this message]
2025-04-10 13:15       ` Bruce Ashfield
2025-04-11  7:48         ` Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-11 12:52           ` Bruce Ashfield
2025-04-11 13:12             ` Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-11 13:39               ` Bruce Ashfield
2025-04-11 13:45                 ` Richard Purdie
2025-04-22 10:18                 ` Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-23 12:48                   ` Bruce Ashfield
     [not found]     ` <1834F69070219745.7383@lists.openembedded.org>
2025-04-11  8:07       ` Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-04 16:29 ` [PATCH v3 04/11] core-image-initramfs-boot: add option to build systemd based initrd Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-07  6:01   ` [OE-core] " Koen Kooi
2025-04-07  6:12     ` Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-07  8:58       ` Koen Kooi
2025-04-07  9:08         ` Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-10 12:45   ` Richard Purdie
2025-04-10 13:05     ` Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-04 16:29 ` [PATCH v3 05/11] core-image-initramfs-boot: don't install RRECOMMENDS to reduce size Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-10 12:47   ` [OE-core] " Richard Purdie
2025-04-10 13:09     ` Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-04 16:29 ` [PATCH v3 06/11] core-image-initramfs-boot: install kernel-initrd-modules by default Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-04 16:29 ` [PATCH v3 07/11] oeqa selftest uki.py: add aarch64/arm test with systemd based initrd Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-04 16:29 ` [PATCH v3 08/11] test_efi_plugin_plain_systemd-boot: don't set console Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-04 16:29 ` [PATCH v3 09/11] image_types_wic.bbclass: capture verbose wic output by default Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-14 20:43   ` [OE-core] " Trevor Woerner
2025-04-15  5:19     ` Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-22 14:25       ` Alexander Kanavin
2025-04-04 16:29 ` [PATCH v3 10/11] wic bootimg-efi.py: fail build if no binaries installed Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-14 20:51   ` [OE-core] " Trevor Woerner
2025-04-15  5:03     ` Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-04 16:29 ` [PATCH v3 11/11] image_types_wic.bbclass: depend on grub-efi and systemd-boot on aarch64, systemd-boot on arm Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-14 20:48   ` [OE-core] " Trevor Woerner
2025-04-15  5:01     ` Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-07  7:53 ` [OE-core] [PATCH v3 00/11] systemd based initrd and modular kernel support Mathieu Dubois-Briand
2025-04-07  8:10   ` Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-07  8:51     ` Mathieu Dubois-Briand
2025-04-07  9:24       ` Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-07  9:52         ` Mathieu Dubois-Briand
2025-04-07 10:26           ` Mikko Rapeli
     [not found]           ` <18340261181AE46F.21691@lists.openembedded.org>
2025-04-07 11:13             ` Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-08 11:26               ` Mathieu Dubois-Briand
2025-04-08 11:39                 ` Mikko Rapeli

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