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From: Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>
To: Ignat Korchagin <ignat@cloudflare.com>
Cc: kadlec@netfilter.org, fw@strlen.de,
	netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org, coreteam@netfilter.org,
	kernel-team@cloudflare.com, jgriege@cloudflare.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] netfilter: nf_tables: allow NFPROTO_INET in nft_(match/target)_validate()
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2024 13:29:49 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zdc+PRCdULl3v7Uj@calendula> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALrw=nE4SY2iZkW9wtYMUwcA=p0wSOzOmSqRF3i_4p4sAnEKUg@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 11:49:32AM +0000, Ignat Korchagin wrote:
> Hi Pablo,
> 
> On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 10:52 AM Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Ignat,
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 10:33:08AM +0000, Ignat Korchagin wrote:
> > > Commit d0009effa886 ("netfilter: nf_tables: validate NFPROTO_* family") added
> > > some validation of NFPROTO_* families in the nft_compat module, but it broke
> > > the ability to use legacy iptables modules in dual-stack nftables.
> > >
> > > While with legacy iptables one had to independently manage IPv4 and IPv6
> > > tables, with nftables it is possible to have dual-stack tables sharing the
> > > rules. Moreover, it was possible to use rules based on legacy iptables
> > > match/target modules in dual-stack nftables.
> > >
> > > As an example, the program from [2] creates an INET dual-stack family table
> > > using an xt_bpf based rule, which looks like the following (the actual output
> > > was generated with a patched nft tool as the current nft tool does not parse
> > > dual stack tables with legacy match rules, so consider it for illustrative
> > > purposes only):
> > >
> > > table inet testfw {
> > >   chain input {
> > >     type filter hook prerouting priority filter; policy accept;
> > >     bytecode counter packets 0 bytes 0 accept
> > >   }
> > > }
> >
> > This nft command does not exist in tree, this does not restores fine
> > with nft -f. It provides a misleading hint to the reader.
> 
> I tried to clarify above that this is for illustrative purposes only -
> just to give context about what we are trying to do, but do let me
> know if you prefer a v4 with this completely removed.

Thanks for clarifying.

> > I am fine with restoring this because you use it, but you have to find
> > a better interface than using nft_compat to achieve this IMO.
> 
> We're actually looking to restore the effort in [1] so some support
> would be appreciated.
>
> > The upstream consensus this far is not to expose nft_compat features
> > through userspace nft. But as said, I understand and I am fine with
> > restoring kernel behaviour so you can keep going with your out-of-tree
> > patch.
> 
> Understood. There is no expectation from us that upstream userspace
> nft should natively support this (as it didn't before d0009effa886),
> but we can send the patch if consensus changes.

Thanks for explaining.

      reply	other threads:[~2024-02-22 12:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-22 10:33 [PATCH v3] netfilter: nf_tables: allow NFPROTO_INET in nft_(match/target)_validate() Ignat Korchagin
2024-02-22 10:52 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2024-02-22 11:49   ` Ignat Korchagin
2024-02-22 12:29     ` Pablo Neira Ayuso [this message]

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