From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: "Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>
Cc: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>,
Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Bernhard Beschow <shentey@gmail.com>,
pbonzini@redhat.com, devel@lists.libvirt.org,
richard.henderson@linaro.org, mst@redhat.com,
qemu-trivial@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH for-9.0] docs/about: Mark the iaspc machine type as deprecated
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2024 13:51:07 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZgQkS4RPmSt5Xa08@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8dbba6ae-5910-4a62-9a08-a56e20dfb480@linaro.org>
On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 02:29:58PM +0100, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote:
> Hi Igor,
>
> On 26/3/24 14:08, Thomas Huth wrote:
> >
> > s/iaspc/isapc/ in the subject
> >
> > On 26/03/2024 13.51, Igor Mammedov wrote:
> > > ISAPC machine was introduced 25 years ago and it's a lot of time since
> > > such machine was around with real ISA only PC hardware practically
> > > defunct.
> > > Also it's slowly bit-rots (for example: I was able to boot RHEL6 on
> > > RHEL9 host
> > > in only TCG mode, while in KVM mode it hung in the middle of boot)
>
> I'm quite opposed to this patch. QEMU models various very-old /
> defunct hardware. I'm pretty sure Bernhard and myself are OK to
> keep maintaining it, besides we are working in separating it from
> the i440fx+piix machine. Also, this machine is particularly
> interesting for my single-binary experiments.
>
> Where I agree is we should stop reporting "KVM on ISA/PC machine"
> as supported.
isapc could arguably be restricted to just 32-bit CPU models, because
we should not need it to support any feature that didn't exist prior
to circa 1995. eg refuse to start with isapc, if 'lm' is present in
the CPU model for example.
With regards,
Daniel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-03-27 13:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-03-26 12:51 [PATCH for-9.0] docs/about: Mark the iaspc machine type as deprecated Igor Mammedov
2024-03-26 13:03 ` Ani Sinha
2024-03-26 13:08 ` Thomas Huth
2024-03-26 13:29 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-03-26 13:37 ` Thomas Huth
2024-03-26 14:00 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-03-26 16:16 ` Igor Mammedov
2024-03-27 10:49 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-03-27 13:09 ` Igor Mammedov
2024-03-27 13:14 ` Thomas Huth
2024-03-27 13:22 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-03-27 13:27 ` Peter Maydell
2024-03-27 13:29 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-03-27 13:26 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-03-27 20:39 ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-03-27 13:51 ` Daniel P. Berrangé [this message]
2024-03-27 20:47 ` Bernhard Beschow
2024-03-26 13:30 ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2024-03-26 16:20 ` Igor Mammedov
2024-03-26 16:22 ` Igor Mammedov
2024-03-27 7:09 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2024-03-28 14:09 ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2024-03-29 10:19 ` Bernhard Beschow
2024-04-02 8:53 ` Gerd Hoffmann
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