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From: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
To: Alexander Duyck <alexander.duyck@gmail.com>
Cc: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	pabeni@redhat.com, John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	Alexander Lobakin <aleksander.lobakin@intel.com>,
	Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Edward Cree <ecree.xilinx@gmail.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, bhelgaas@google.com,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	Alexander Duyck <alexanderduyck@fb.com>,
	Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [net-next PATCH 00/15] eth: fbnic: Add network driver for Meta Platforms Host Network Interface
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2024 08:34:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZheEeT-Gajp0rl3H@nanopsycho> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKgT0UepNfYJN73J9LRWwAGqQ7YPwQUNTXff3PTN26DpwWix8Q@mail.gmail.com>

Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 08:01:44PM CEST, alexander.duyck@gmail.com wrote:
>On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 10:56 AM Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 10:39:11 -0700 Florian Fainelli wrote:
>> > > Hm, we currently group by vendor but the fact it's a private device
>> > > is probably more important indeed. For example if Google submits
>> > > a driver for a private device it may be confusing what's public
>> > > cloud (which I think/hope GVE is) and what's fully private.
>> > >
>> > > So we could categorize by the characteristic rather than vendor:
>> > >
>> > > drivers/net/ethernet/${term}/fbnic/
>> > >
>> > > I'm afraid it may be hard for us to agree on an accurate term, tho.
>> > > "Unused" sounds.. odd, we don't keep unused code, "private"
>> > > sounds like we granted someone special right not took some away,
>> > > maybe "exclusive"? Or "besteffort"? Or "staging" :D  IDK.
>> >
>> > Do we really need that categorization at the directory/filesystem level?
>> > cannot we just document it clearly in the Kconfig help text and under
>> > Documentation/networking/?
>>
>> From the reviewer perspective I think we will just remember.
>> If some newcomer tries to do refactoring they may benefit from seeing
>> this is a special device and more help is offered. Dunno if a newcomer
>> would look at the right docs.
>>
>> Whether it's more "paperwork" than we'll actually gain, I have no idea.
>> I may not be the best person to comment.
>
>Are we going to go through and retro-actively move some of the drivers
>that are already there that are exclusive to specific companies? That
>is the bigger issue as I see it. It has already been brought up that

Why is it an issue? Very easy to move drivers to this new directory.


>idpf is exclusive. In addition several other people have reached out
>to me about other devices that are exclusive to other organizations.
>
>I don't see any value in it as it would just encourage people to lie
>in order to avoid being put in what would essentially become a
>blacklisted directory.

You are thinking all or nothing. I'd say that if we have 80% of such
drivers in the correct place/directory, it's a win. The rest will lie.
Shame for them when it is discovered.


>
>If we are going to be trying to come up with some special status maybe
>it makes sense to have some status in the MAINTAINERS file that would
>indicate that this driver is exclusive to some organization and not
>publicly available so any maintenance would have to be proprietary.

      parent reply	other threads:[~2024-04-11  6:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 163+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-03 20:08 [net-next PATCH 00/15] eth: fbnic: Add network driver for Meta Platforms Host Network Interface Alexander Duyck
2024-04-03 20:08 ` [net-next PATCH 01/15] PCI: Add Meta Platforms vendor ID Alexander Duyck
2024-04-03 20:20   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-04-03 20:08 ` [net-next PATCH 02/15] eth: fbnic: add scaffolding for Meta's NIC driver Alexander Duyck
2024-04-03 20:33   ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-03 20:47     ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-03 21:17       ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-03 21:51         ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-03 22:20           ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-03 23:27             ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-03 20:08 ` [net-next PATCH 03/15] eth: fbnic: Allocate core device specific structures and devlink interface Alexander Duyck
2024-04-03 20:35   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-04-03 20:08 ` [net-next PATCH 04/15] eth: fbnic: Add register init to set PCIe/Ethernet device config Alexander Duyck
2024-04-03 20:46   ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-10 20:31     ` Jacob Keller
2024-04-03 20:08 ` [net-next PATCH 05/15] eth: fbnic: add message parsing for FW messages Alexander Duyck
2024-04-03 21:07   ` Jeff Johnson
2024-04-03 20:08 ` [net-next PATCH 06/15] eth: fbnic: add FW communication mechanism Alexander Duyck
2024-04-03 20:08 ` [net-next PATCH 07/15] eth: fbnic: allocate a netdevice and napi vectors with queues Alexander Duyck
2024-04-03 20:58   ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-03 22:15     ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-03 22:26       ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-03 20:08 ` [net-next PATCH 08/15] eth: fbnic: implement Tx queue alloc/start/stop/free Alexander Duyck
2024-04-03 20:09 ` [net-next PATCH 09/15] eth: fbnic: implement Rx " Alexander Duyck
2024-04-04 11:42   ` kernel test robot
2024-04-03 20:09 ` [net-next PATCH 10/15] eth: fbnic: Add initial messaging to notify FW of our presence Alexander Duyck
2024-04-03 20:09 ` [net-next PATCH 11/15] eth: fbnic: Enable Ethernet link setup Alexander Duyck
2024-04-03 21:11   ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-05 21:51   ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-21 23:21     ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-22 15:52       ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-22 18:59         ` Alexander H Duyck
2024-04-03 20:09 ` [net-next PATCH 12/15] eth: fbnic: add basic Tx handling Alexander Duyck
2024-04-03 20:09 ` [net-next PATCH 13/15] eth: fbnic: add basic Rx handling Alexander Duyck
2024-04-09 11:47   ` Yunsheng Lin
2024-04-09 15:08     ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-10 11:54       ` Yunsheng Lin
2024-04-10 15:03         ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-12  8:43           ` Yunsheng Lin
2024-04-12  9:47             ` Yunsheng Lin
2024-04-12 15:05             ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-15 13:19               ` Yunsheng Lin
2024-04-15 15:03                 ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-15 17:11                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-15 18:03                     ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-15 18:19                       ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-15 18:55                         ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-15 22:01                           ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-15 23:57                             ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-16  0:24                               ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-16 13:25                             ` Yunsheng Lin
2024-04-16 14:35                               ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-16 14:05                       ` Alexander Lobakin
2024-04-16 14:46                         ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-16 18:26                           ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-17  8:14                           ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-04-17 16:09                             ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-17 10:39                           ` Alexander Lobakin
2024-04-03 20:09 ` [net-next PATCH 14/15] eth: fbnic: add L2 address programming Alexander Duyck
2024-04-03 20:09 ` [net-next PATCH 15/15] eth: fbnic: write the TCAM tables used for RSS control and Rx to host Alexander Duyck
2024-04-03 20:42 ` [net-next PATCH 00/15] eth: fbnic: Add network driver for Meta Platforms Host Network Interface Bjorn Helgaas
2024-04-04 11:37 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-04-04 14:45   ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-04 15:24     ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-04 15:37       ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-05  3:08         ` David Ahern
2024-04-04 15:36     ` Jiri Pirko
2024-04-04 18:35       ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-04 19:05         ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-04-04 19:22       ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-04 20:25         ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-04 21:59           ` John Fastabend
2024-04-04 23:50             ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-05  0:11               ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-05  2:38                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-05 15:41                   ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-08  6:18                     ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-04-08 15:26                       ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-08 18:41                         ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-04-08 20:43                           ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-08 21:49                             ` Florian Fainelli
2024-04-08 21:52                               ` Florian Fainelli
2024-04-09  8:18                             ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-04-09 14:43                               ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-09 15:39                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-09 16:31                                   ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-09 17:12                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-09 18:38                                       ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-09 18:54                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-09 20:03                                           ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-09 23:11                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-10  9:37                                             ` Jiri Pirko
2024-04-09 19:15                                         ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-04-05  7:11                 ` Paolo Abeni
2024-04-05 12:26                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-05 13:06                     ` Daniel Borkmann
2024-04-05 14:24                     ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-05 15:17                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-05 18:38                         ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-05 19:02                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-06 16:05                             ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-06 16:49                               ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-06 17:16                                 ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-08 15:04                               ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-08 19:50                               ` Mina Almasry
2024-04-08 11:50                           ` Jiri Pirko
2024-04-08 15:46                             ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-08 16:51                               ` Jiri Pirko
2024-04-08 17:32                                 ` John Fastabend
2024-04-09 11:01                                   ` Jiri Pirko
2024-04-09 13:11                                     ` Alexander Lobakin
2024-04-09 13:18                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-09 14:08                                       ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-09 14:27                                         ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-09 14:41                                       ` Jiri Pirko
2024-04-10 11:45                                         ` Alexander Lobakin
2024-04-10 12:12                                           ` Jiri Pirko
2024-04-08 21:36                                 ` Florian Fainelli
2024-04-09 10:56                                   ` Jiri Pirko
2024-04-09 13:05                                     ` Florian Fainelli
2024-04-09 14:28                                       ` Jiri Pirko
2024-04-09 17:42                                         ` Florian Fainelli
2024-04-09 18:38                                           ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-04-08 18:16                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-09 16:53                       ` Edward Cree
2024-04-08 11:37                   ` Jiri Pirko
2024-04-04 23:50             ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-08 11:05             ` Jiri Pirko
2024-04-08 10:54         ` Jiri Pirko
2024-04-05 14:01 ` Przemek Kitszel
2024-04-06 16:53   ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-09 20:51 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-09 21:06   ` Willem de Bruijn
2024-04-10  7:26     ` Jiri Pirko
2024-04-10 21:30       ` Jacob Keller
2024-04-10 22:19         ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-11  0:31           ` Jacob Keller
2024-04-09 23:42   ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-10 15:56     ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-10 20:01       ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-10 21:07         ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-10 22:37           ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-11 16:00             ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-11 17:32               ` Andrew Lunn
2024-04-11 23:12                 ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-11  6:39           ` Jiri Pirko
2024-04-11 16:46             ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-10  7:42   ` Jiri Pirko
2024-04-10 12:50     ` Przemek Kitszel
2024-04-10 13:46     ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-10 15:12       ` Jiri Pirko
2024-04-10 17:35         ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-10 17:39           ` Florian Fainelli
2024-04-10 17:56             ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-10 18:00               ` Florian Fainelli
2024-04-10 20:03                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-10 18:01               ` Alexander Duyck
2024-04-10 18:29                 ` Florian Fainelli
2024-04-10 19:58                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-04-10 22:03                     ` Jacob Keller
2024-04-11  6:31                       ` Jiri Pirko
2024-04-11 16:22                         ` Jacob Keller
2024-04-11  6:34                 ` Jiri Pirko [this message]

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