From: Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>
To: Peter Newman <peternewman@google.com>
Cc: Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>,
babu.moger@amd.com, James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Fenghua Yu <fenghua.yu@intel.com>,
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Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
H Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com>,
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David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 00/31] x86/resctrl: Move the resctrl filesystem code to /fs/resctrl
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2024 13:37:56 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZierpCsSN7mr6Rka@e133380.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALPaoCi6cd8=Kc6ozDok=s6koxvOH-vTDmaCxbichk_72e6auw@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 11:39:00AM -0700, Peter Newman wrote:
> Hi Dave,
>
> On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 9:01 AM Reinette Chatre
> <reinette.chatre@intel.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Babu and Dave,
> >
> > On 4/22/2024 6:51 AM, Moger, Babu wrote:
> > > On 4/19/24 23:06, Reinette Chatre wrote:
> > >>
> > >> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/cover.1711674410.git.babu.moger@amd.com/
> > >
> > > Do you have any more feedback on this series. I have few feedbacks from
> > > Peter. I was planning to work on v4 of this series.
> > >
> >
> > Babu: It is difficult to start drilling into the implementation before there
> > is agreement on the interface. One reason you went through the effort of
> > the first few iterations was to accommodate Arm's use cases as we understand
> > it, but we need to hear from Arm if we are on the right track here.
> > I do hope that we will hear something in the next couple of weeks.
> >
> > Dave: Could you please check in if the interface introduced [1] is something
> > of interest to Arm? If it is not, we can proceed with the implementation without
> > trying to consider how Arm may use/need such an interface. If it is, could you
> > please let us know when we can expect feedback from Arm?
>
> Because MPAM implementations typically expose an MSC for each DRAM
> channel, there is an alternate strategy we can use for the monitor
> scalability problem:
>
> When a single DRAM MSC does not provide enough monitors to track all
> of the supported PARTID x PMG combinations simultaneously, the DRAM
> MSCs collectively may provide a sufficient number of monitors.
> Therefore, as long as the distribution of traffic among the DRAM
> channels is uniform (or predictably non-uniform), it's possible to
> estimate the total bandwidth with sufficient accuracy.
>
> -Peter
>
So you're suggesting that if (say) DRAM traffic is striped symmetrically
across N channels, and each has counters, then a counter matching
PARTID:PMG on just one channel should given an unbiased estimate of the
traffic from that group (with some sacrifice of precision, and assuming
the workload is non-pathological)?
I guess that could work, though this might work badly for some workloads
and might give a malicious workload a way to hide transactions from
monitoring if the placement of the counter is too fixed and/or
predictable.
Cheers
---Dave
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-04-23 12:38 UTC|newest]
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2024-03-21 16:50 [PATCH v1 00/31] x86/resctrl: Move the resctrl filesystem code to /fs/resctrl James Morse
2024-03-21 16:50 ` [PATCH v1 01/31] x86/resctrl: Fix allocation of cleanest CLOSID on platforms with no monitors James Morse
2024-04-09 3:13 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-04-11 14:13 ` Dave Martin
2024-04-09 8:05 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-04-09 15:02 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-04-09 15:06 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-04-11 15:02 ` Dave Martin
2024-04-11 14:13 ` Dave Martin
2024-04-11 17:35 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-04-12 16:17 ` Dave Martin
2024-04-15 20:27 ` Moger, Babu
2024-04-16 16:13 ` Dave Martin
2024-04-16 20:33 ` Moger, Babu
2024-03-21 16:50 ` [PATCH v1 02/31] x86/resctrl: Add a helper to avoid reaching into the arch code resource list James Morse
2024-04-09 3:13 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-04-11 14:14 ` Dave Martin
2024-04-09 8:09 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-04-11 14:13 ` Dave Martin
2024-04-15 20:28 ` Moger, Babu
2024-04-16 16:15 ` Dave Martin
2024-04-16 20:44 ` Moger, Babu
2024-04-17 14:40 ` Dave Martin
2024-03-21 16:50 ` [PATCH v1 03/31] x86/resctrl: Move ctrlval string parsing policy away from the arch code James Morse
2024-04-09 3:14 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-04-12 16:16 ` Dave Martin
2024-04-15 17:44 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-04-16 16:16 ` Dave Martin
2024-04-18 5:34 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-05-23 18:04 ` James Morse
2024-04-09 15:13 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-04-12 16:13 ` Dave Martin
2024-03-21 16:50 ` [PATCH v1 04/31] x86/resctrl: Add helper for setting CPU default properties James Morse
2024-04-09 3:15 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-04-12 16:13 ` Dave Martin
2024-04-15 17:45 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-04-16 16:16 ` Dave Martin
2024-03-21 16:50 ` [PATCH v1 05/31] x86/resctrl: Remove rdtgroup from update_cpu_closid_rmid() James Morse
2024-04-09 3:16 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-04-12 16:12 ` Dave Martin
2024-04-15 17:47 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-04-16 16:16 ` Dave Martin
2024-04-18 5:12 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-04-18 15:21 ` Dave Martin
2024-04-20 3:58 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-04-15 20:40 ` Moger, Babu
2024-04-16 16:17 ` Dave Martin
2024-03-21 16:50 ` [PATCH v1 06/31] x86/resctrl: Export resctrl fs's init function James Morse
2024-04-03 7:51 ` Shaopeng Tan (Fujitsu)
2024-04-11 14:14 ` Dave Martin
2024-04-09 3:16 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-04-11 14:14 ` Dave Martin
2024-04-11 17:36 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-03-21 16:50 ` [PATCH v1 07/31] x86/resctrl: Wrap resctrl_arch_find_domain() around rdt_find_domain() James Morse
2024-04-09 3:17 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-04-11 14:15 ` Dave Martin
2024-03-21 16:50 ` [PATCH v1 08/31] x86/resctrl: Move resctrl types to a separate header James Morse
2024-04-09 3:18 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-04-12 16:17 ` Dave Martin
2024-04-15 18:03 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-04-16 16:19 ` Dave Martin
2024-04-18 5:15 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-04-18 15:25 ` Dave Martin
2024-04-20 3:59 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-03-21 16:50 ` [PATCH v1 09/31] x86/resctrl: Add a resctrl helper to reset all the resources James Morse
2024-04-03 7:52 ` Shaopeng Tan (Fujitsu)
2024-04-12 16:17 ` Dave Martin
2024-03-21 16:50 ` [PATCH v1 10/31] x86/resctrl: Move monitor init work to a resctrl init call James Morse
2024-04-09 3:18 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-04-10 2:57 ` Shawn Wang
2024-04-11 15:35 ` Dave Martin
2024-06-05 16:40 ` James Morse
2024-03-21 16:50 ` [PATCH v1 11/31] x86/resctrl: Move monitor exit work to a restrl exit call James Morse
2024-04-09 3:19 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-04-11 14:15 ` Dave Martin
2024-04-11 17:37 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-03-21 16:50 ` [PATCH v1 12/31] x86/resctrl: Move max_{name,data}_width into resctrl code James Morse
2024-04-09 3:19 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-04-11 14:15 ` Dave Martin
2024-04-11 17:38 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-04-17 14:41 ` Dave Martin
2024-04-18 5:16 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-04-18 15:26 ` Dave Martin
2024-03-21 16:50 ` [PATCH v1 13/31] x86/resctrl: Stop using the for_each_*_rdt_resource() walkers James Morse
2024-04-09 3:19 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-04-11 14:16 ` Dave Martin
2024-03-21 16:50 ` [PATCH v1 14/31] x86/resctrl: Export the is_mbm_*_enabled() helpers to asm/resctrl.h James Morse
2024-04-09 3:20 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-04-11 14:16 ` Dave Martin
2024-03-21 16:50 ` [PATCH v1 15/31] x86/resctrl: Add resctrl_arch_is_evt_configurable() to abstract BMEC James Morse
2024-03-21 16:50 ` [PATCH v1 16/31] x86/resctrl: Change mon_event_config_{read,write}() to be arch helpers James Morse
2024-04-09 3:20 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-04-11 14:16 ` Dave Martin
2024-03-21 16:50 ` [PATCH v1 17/31] x86/resctrl: Move mbm_cfg_mask to struct rdt_resource James Morse
2024-04-09 3:21 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-04-11 14:16 ` Dave Martin
2024-04-11 17:39 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-04-17 14:41 ` Dave Martin
2024-04-18 5:18 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-04-18 15:26 ` Dave Martin
2024-06-14 13:57 ` James Morse
2024-03-21 16:50 ` [PATCH v1 18/31] x86/resctrl: Allow resctrl_arch_mon_event_config_write() to return an error James Morse
2024-04-09 3:23 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-04-11 14:17 ` Dave Martin
2024-04-11 17:39 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-04-17 14:42 ` Dave Martin
2024-04-18 5:19 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-04-18 15:31 ` Dave Martin
2024-06-14 13:57 ` James Morse
2024-03-21 16:50 ` [PATCH v1 19/31] x86/resctrl: Add resctrl_arch_ prefix to pseudo lock functions James Morse
2024-03-21 16:50 ` [PATCH v1 20/31] x86/resctrl: Allow an architecture to disable pseudo lock James Morse
2024-04-09 3:24 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-04-11 14:17 ` Dave Martin
2024-04-11 17:40 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-04-17 14:42 ` Dave Martin
2024-03-21 16:50 ` [PATCH v1 21/31] x86/resctrl: Make prefetch_disable_bits belong to the arch code James Morse
2024-03-21 16:50 ` [PATCH v1 22/31] x86/resctrl: Make resctrl_arch_pseudo_lock_fn() take a plr James Morse
2024-04-09 3:24 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-04-11 14:38 ` Dave Martin
2024-04-11 17:40 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-03-21 16:50 ` [PATCH v1 23/31] x86/resctrl: Move thread_throttle_mode_init() to be managed by resctrl James Morse
2024-03-21 16:50 ` [PATCH v1 24/31] x86/resctrl: Move get_config_index() to a header James Morse
2024-04-09 3:25 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-04-11 14:25 ` Dave Martin
2024-04-11 17:41 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-06-14 13:58 ` James Morse
2024-03-21 16:51 ` [PATCH v1 25/31] x86/resctrl: Claim get_domain_from_cpu() for resctrl James Morse
2024-03-21 16:51 ` [PATCH v1 26/31] x86/resctrl: Describe resctrl's bitmap size assumptions James Morse
2024-03-21 16:51 ` [PATCH v1 27/31] x86/resctrl: Rename resctrl_sched_in() to begin resctrl_arch_ James Morse
2024-04-09 3:26 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-04-11 14:25 ` Dave Martin
2024-04-15 20:43 ` Moger, Babu
2024-03-21 16:51 ` [PATCH v1 28/31] x86/resctrl: Drop __init/__exit on assorted symbols James Morse
2024-04-09 3:32 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-04-11 14:26 ` Dave Martin
2024-04-11 15:51 ` [EXTERNAL] " Amit Singh Tomar
2024-04-12 16:20 ` Dave Martin
2024-04-30 7:13 ` Amit Singh Tomar
2024-04-30 16:19 ` Dave Martin
2024-05-01 16:21 ` Amit Singh Tomar
2024-05-02 15:58 ` Dave Martin
2024-06-14 13:59 ` James Morse
2024-06-14 13:59 ` [EXTERNAL] " James Morse
2024-03-21 16:51 ` [PATCH v1 29/31] fs/resctrl: Add boiler plate for external resctrl code James Morse
2024-04-09 3:41 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-04-11 14:27 ` Dave Martin
2024-04-11 17:42 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-04-12 16:23 ` Dave Martin
2024-04-12 16:23 ` Dave Martin
2024-03-21 16:51 ` [PATCH v1 30/31] x86/resctrl: Move the filesystem bits to headers visible to fs/resctrl James Morse
2024-04-04 7:43 ` Shaopeng Tan (Fujitsu)
2024-04-11 14:27 ` Dave Martin
2024-04-09 3:42 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-04-11 14:28 ` Dave Martin
2024-04-11 17:43 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-04-12 16:20 ` Dave Martin
2024-04-15 18:03 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-04-17 14:42 ` Dave Martin
2024-03-21 16:51 ` [PATCH v1 31/31] x86/resctrl: Move the resctrl filesystem code to /fs/resctrl James Morse
2024-03-26 19:44 ` Fenghua Yu
2024-04-11 14:30 ` Dave Martin
2024-04-11 17:45 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-04-12 16:20 ` Dave Martin
2024-04-09 3:43 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-04-11 14:38 ` Dave Martin
2024-04-15 20:44 ` Moger, Babu
2024-04-17 14:43 ` Dave Martin
2024-06-14 13:59 ` James Morse
2024-04-09 3:13 ` [PATCH v1 00/31] " Reinette Chatre
2024-04-11 14:38 ` Dave Martin
2024-04-18 15:32 ` Dave Martin
2024-04-20 4:06 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-04-22 13:51 ` Moger, Babu
2024-04-22 16:01 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-04-22 18:35 ` Moger, Babu
2024-04-22 18:39 ` Peter Newman
2024-04-23 12:37 ` Dave Martin [this message]
2024-06-14 13:59 ` James Morse
2024-04-11 13:52 ` Dave Martin
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