From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from lists.xenproject.org (lists.xenproject.org [192.237.175.120]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3501BC10F16 for ; Mon, 6 May 2024 10:35:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lists.xenproject.org with outflank-mailman.717532.1119831 (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1s3vgQ-0000z6-IA; Mon, 06 May 2024 10:34:58 +0000 X-Outflank-Mailman: Message body and most headers restored to incoming version Received: by outflank-mailman (output) from mailman id 717532.1119831; Mon, 06 May 2024 10:34:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.xenproject.org) by lists.xenproject.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1s3vgQ-0000yz-DX; Mon, 06 May 2024 10:34:58 +0000 Received: by outflank-mailman (input) for mailman id 717532; Mon, 06 May 2024 10:34:57 +0000 Received: from se1-gles-sth1-in.inumbo.com ([159.253.27.254] helo=se1-gles-sth1.inumbo.com) by lists.xenproject.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1s3vgP-0000yt-IS for xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org; Mon, 06 May 2024 10:34:57 +0000 Received: from mail-wr1-x435.google.com (mail-wr1-x435.google.com [2a00:1450:4864:20::435]) by se1-gles-sth1.inumbo.com (Halon) with ESMTPS id 481639f2-0b94-11ef-909c-e314d9c70b13; Mon, 06 May 2024 12:34:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mail-wr1-x435.google.com with SMTP id ffacd0b85a97d-34eb52bfca3so1194741f8f.0 for ; Mon, 06 May 2024 03:34:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([213.195.114.223]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u5-20020a05600c138500b0041ac5f19213sm15647564wmf.8.2024.05.06.03.34.55 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 06 May 2024 03:34:55 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org List-Id: Xen developer discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xenproject.org Precedence: list Sender: "Xen-devel" X-Inumbo-ID: 481639f2-0b94-11ef-909c-e314d9c70b13 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=citrix.com; s=google; t=1714991696; x=1715596496; darn=lists.xenproject.org; h=in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :mime-version:references:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:from:to :cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=wiclyWMdqkQ7SzHiYugOC5HvIxzP8WwGlPvhETChz/s=; b=rSJGrrh4N59ciftotwTJXvtUOMnPNrC6HOvHd6t5IdhbnHbUiyPFWp+tn/PqLZbSXF VKU7Q69lzd765oeC+GYBaT1WTLqhqWoL/94BZCo/GfznlR+nB8JsyGL/R+hcRBoyN9jc 3relKrE7GhTbRPvA1jdrKOmjc0C/v6jAHt2uU= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1714991696; x=1715596496; h=in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :mime-version:references:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=wiclyWMdqkQ7SzHiYugOC5HvIxzP8WwGlPvhETChz/s=; b=LxKjJpsKzLfYqZlgT5crLGAaFexRKoCZbQWh92rAABLXkXtTzUO28c7+czfZzYP38z Yd5vihIZ+GMKkQIxfhKSwR2j9r/TFYMkMKkv+osQVhedT3ZDcnXZCToJX+K6iB1nF5Ty Fqv5XQWuVFlZAralyEZgI+Pl1gNOnR1+ihP3M9DYL2PpoPYha1RniW4LEjjabGgIZo02 YzqQlXQifAZgPMGsDbXclW9rZsQIOhMCByRiBCeidwdkPI3TEDlKDYaH8POOaZrd4+Si DP/yRdplZ/WSTmiZkcsjsqoCtF1NOjADCpv30k3Y5LUgM5uP7MylRg2677s6gZODXUeM S48A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YwTgZwJeASe+PCZOPUFqFcxZbnIlRYAiSR8/7x19vTKut6uTsrN uukeYmty3UIS6tEM9WNP4KEsYlO40BHRYfvQPDTmA0hPWxk72tqNpTt2CjAt9oc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IE6jinlnyJfDz8MX4gSaw2yYikTgjDvz4mPmZmg1aFRyCTPcztXI34kcbX1x8CONwCQDeHpig== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6000:c0c:b0:345:663f:cd79 with SMTP id dn12-20020a0560000c0c00b00345663fcd79mr8358570wrb.14.1714991695977; Mon, 06 May 2024 03:34:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 6 May 2024 12:34:54 +0200 From: Roger Pau =?utf-8?B?TW9ubsOp?= To: Jan Beulich Cc: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, committers@xenproject.org, community.manager@xenproject.org, Kelly Choi , Oleksii Subject: Re: Xen 4.19 release status tracking list [ May ] Message-ID: References: <32e2d9dddfaa80e8edfaa5a7207c4e7fb7862a45.camel@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: On Mon, May 06, 2024 at 11:35:00AM +0200, Jan Beulich wrote: > On 06.05.2024 11:26, Roger Pau Monné wrote: > > And then some patches that I don't expect to make progress: > > > > x86/shutdown: change default reboot method preference > > https://lore.kernel.org/xen-devel/20230915074347.94712-1-roger.pau@citrix.com/ > > > > x86/time: prefer CMOS over EFI_GET_TIME > > https://lore.kernel.org/xen-devel/20240315114242.33309-1-roger.pau@citrix.com/ > > > > I find it quite funny how everyone complains about all downstreams > > carrying similar patches to deal with firmware bugs, yet when I > > attempt to formally post them I get zero interest from such > > downstreams. Maybe raising them here will help get some eyes. > > Well, as indicated on the Community Call I've meanwhile proposed a design > session (which won't really be about design) for Lisbon, as to maintenance > of our EFI interfacing. I think I had provided feedback on the shutdown > patch, and I didn't think there was much of a point repeating almost the > same for the time one. I know you are likely not OK with those, so I wasn't expecting input from you. We had discussions in the past where people complained that our defaults are not OK because they lead to errors and panics on production systems, and I'm surprised to find that none seem to have cared about the above patches that attempt to address at least part of this. > As a minor remark on what you say above: It's clearly not "all" > downstreams, as we don't carry anything similar to either of the two > patches. But I'm pretty sure you meant "most" or "many" anyway. Yes, indeed not all. I don't carry those either on the FreeBSD packages. Thanks, Roger.