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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Rick P Edgecombe <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>
Cc: "kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	 "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Yan Y Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>,
	 "michael.roth@amd.com" <michael.roth@amd.com>,
	Isaku Yamahata <isaku.yamahata@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 07/17] KVM: x86: add fields to struct kvm_arch for CoCo features
Date: Tue, 7 May 2024 17:21:02 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZjrFblWaPNwXe0my@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b4892d4cb7fea466fd82bcaf72ad3b29d28ce778.camel@intel.com>

On Tue, May 07, 2024, Rick P Edgecombe wrote:
> On Mon, 2024-04-08 at 18:21 -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > > - Give other name for this check like zap_from_leafs (or better name?)
> > >    The implementation is same to kvm_gfn_shared_mask() with comment.
> > >    - Or we can add a boolean variable to struct kvm
> > 
> > If we _don't_ hardcode the behavior, a per-memslot flag or a per-VM
> > capability (and thus boolean) is likely the way to go.  My off-the-cuff
> > vote is probably for a per-memslot flag.
> 
> Hi Sean,
> 
> Can you elaborate on the reason for a per-memslot flag? We are discussing this
> design point internally, and also the intersection with the previous attempts to
> do something similar with a per-vm flag[0].
> 
> I'm wondering if the intention is to try to make a memslot flag, so it can be
> expanded for the normal VM usage.

Sure, I'll go with that answer.  Like I said, off-the-cuff.

There's no concrete motiviation, it's more that _if_ we're going to expose a knob
to userspace, then I'd prefer to make it as precise as possible to minimize the
changes of KVM ending up back in ABI hell again.

> Because the discussion on the original attempts, it seems safer to keep this
> behavior more limited (TDX only) for now.  And for TDX's usage a struct kvm
> bool fits best because all memslots need to be set to zap_leafs_only = true,
> anyway.

No they don't.  They might be set that way in practice for QEMU, but it's not
strictly required.  E.g. nothing would prevent a VMM from exposing a shared-only
memslot to a guest.  The memslots that burned KVM the first time around were
related to VFIO devices, and I wouldn't put it past someone to be crazy enough
to expose an passhtrough an untrusted device to a TDX guest.

> It's simpler for userspace, and less possible situations to worry about for KVM.
> 
> [0] https://lore.kernel.org/kvm/20200703025047.13987-1-sean.j.christopherson@intel.com/


  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-08  0:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-04 12:13 [PATCH v5 00/17] KVM: SEV: allow customizing VMSA features Paolo Bonzini
2024-04-04 12:13 ` [PATCH v5 01/17] KVM: SVM: Invert handling of SEV and SEV_ES feature flags Paolo Bonzini
2024-04-04 12:13 ` [PATCH v5 02/17] KVM: SVM: Compile sev.c if and only if CONFIG_KVM_AMD_SEV=y Paolo Bonzini
2024-04-04 12:13 ` [PATCH v5 03/17] KVM: x86: use u64_to_user_ptr() Paolo Bonzini
2024-04-04 12:13 ` [PATCH v5 04/17] KVM: introduce new vendor op for KVM_GET_DEVICE_ATTR Paolo Bonzini
2024-04-04 21:30   ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-04-04 12:13 ` [PATCH v5 05/17] KVM: SEV: publish supported VMSA features Paolo Bonzini
2024-04-04 21:32   ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-04-04 12:13 ` [PATCH v5 06/17] KVM: SEV: store VMSA features in kvm_sev_info Paolo Bonzini
2024-04-04 12:13 ` [PATCH v5 07/17] KVM: x86: add fields to struct kvm_arch for CoCo features Paolo Bonzini
2024-04-04 21:39   ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-04-05 23:01   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-04-09  1:21     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-09 14:01       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-04-09 14:43       ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-04-09 15:26         ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-07 23:01       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-08  0:21         ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2024-05-08  1:19           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-08 14:38             ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-08 15:04               ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-04-04 12:13 ` [PATCH v5 08/17] KVM: x86: Add supported_vm_types to kvm_caps Paolo Bonzini
2024-04-04 12:13 ` [PATCH v5 09/17] KVM: SEV: introduce to_kvm_sev_info Paolo Bonzini
2024-04-04 12:13 ` [PATCH v5 10/17] KVM: SEV: define VM types for SEV and SEV-ES Paolo Bonzini
2024-04-04 12:13 ` [PATCH v5 11/17] KVM: SEV: sync FPU and AVX state at LAUNCH_UPDATE_VMSA time Paolo Bonzini
2024-04-04 12:13 ` [PATCH v5 12/17] KVM: SEV: introduce KVM_SEV_INIT2 operation Paolo Bonzini
2024-04-04 12:13 ` [PATCH v5 13/17] KVM: SEV: allow SEV-ES DebugSwap again Paolo Bonzini
2024-04-04 12:13 ` [PATCH v5 14/17] selftests: kvm: add tests for KVM_SEV_INIT2 Paolo Bonzini
2024-04-04 12:13 ` [PATCH v5 15/17] selftests: kvm: switch to using KVM_X86_*_VM Paolo Bonzini
2024-04-04 12:13 ` [PATCH v5 16/17] selftests: kvm: split "launch" phase of SEV VM creation Paolo Bonzini
2024-04-04 12:13 ` [PATCH v5 17/17] selftests: kvm: add test for transferring FPU state into VMSA Paolo Bonzini

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