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From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: Steven Sistare <steven.sistare@oracle.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Fabiano Rosas <farosas@suse.de>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>,
	Eduardo Habkost <eduardo@habkost.net>,
	Marcel Apfelbaum <marcel.apfelbaum@gmail.com>,
	Philippe Mathieu-Daude <philmd@linaro.org>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V1 08/26] migration: vmstate_info_void_ptr
Date: Tue, 28 May 2024 14:21:23 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZlYgo0UupFdQJ95L@x1n> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f0d4b6af-a3eb-451d-b131-62addb72f3ef@oracle.com>

On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 11:10:16AM -0400, Steven Sistare wrote:
> On 5/27/2024 2:31 PM, Peter Xu wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 29, 2024 at 08:55:17AM -0700, Steve Sistare wrote:
> > > Define VMSTATE_VOID_PTR so the value of a pointer (but not its target)
> > > can be saved in the migration stream.  This will be needed for CPR.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Steve Sistare <steven.sistare@oracle.com>
> > 
> > This is really tricky.
> > 
> >  From a first glance, I don't think migrating a VA is valid at all for
> > migration even if with exec.. and looks insane to me for a cross-process
> > migration, which seems to be allowed to use as a generic VMSD helper.. as
> > VA is the address space barrier for different processes and I think it
> > normally even apply to generic execve(), and we're trying to jailbreak for
> > some reason..
> > 
> > It definitely won't work for any generic migration as sizeof(void*) can be
> > different afaict between hosts, e.g. 32bit -> 64bit migrations.
> > 
> > Some description would be really helpful in this commit message,
> > e.g. explain the users and why.  Do we need to poison that for generic VMSD
> > use (perhaps with prefixed underscores)?  I think I'll need to read on the
> > rest to tell..
> 
> Short answer: we never dereference the void* in the new process.  And must not.
> 
> Longer answer:
> 
> During CPR for vfio, each mapped DMA region is re-registered in the new
> process using the new VA.  The ioctl to re-register identifies the mapping
> by IOVA and length.
> 
> The same requirement holds for CPR of iommufd devices.  However, in the
> iommufd framework, IOVA does not uniquely identify a dma mapping, and we
> need to use the old VA as the unique identifier.  The new process
> re-registers each mapping, passing the old VA and new VA to the kernel.
> The old VA is never dereferenced in the new process, we just need its value.
> 
> I suspected that the void* which must not be dereferenced might make people
> uncomfortable.  I have an older version of my code which adds a uint64_t
> field to RAMBlock for recording and migrating the old VA.  The saving and
> loading code is slightly less elegant, but no big deal.  Would you prefer
> that?

I see, thanks for explaining.  Yes that sounds better to me.  Re the
ugliness: is that about a pre_save() plus one extra uint64_t field?  In
that case it looks better comparing to migrating "void*".

I'm trying to read some context on the vaddr remap thing from you, and I
found this:

https://lore.kernel.org/all/Y90bvBnrvRAcEQ%2F%2F@nvidia.com/

So it will work with iommufd now?  Meanwhile, what's the status for mdev?
Looks like it isn't supported yet for both.

Thanks,

-- 
Peter Xu



  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-28 18:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 122+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-29 15:55 [PATCH V1 00/26] Live update: cpr-exec Steve Sistare
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 01/26] oslib: qemu_clear_cloexec Steve Sistare
2024-05-06 23:27   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-07  8:56     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-05-07 13:54       ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 02/26] vl: helper to request re-exec Steve Sistare
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 03/26] migration: SAVEVM_FOREACH Steve Sistare
2024-05-06 23:17   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-13 19:27     ` Steven Sistare
2024-05-27 18:14       ` Peter Xu
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 04/26] migration: delete unused parameter mis Steve Sistare
2024-05-06 21:50   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-27 18:02   ` Peter Xu
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 05/26] migration: precreate vmstate Steve Sistare
2024-05-07 21:02   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-13 19:28     ` Steven Sistare
2024-05-24 13:56   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-27 18:16   ` Peter Xu
2024-05-28 15:09     ` Steven Sistare via
2024-05-29 18:39       ` Peter Xu
2024-05-30 17:04         ` Steven Sistare via
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 06/26] migration: precreate vmstate for exec Steve Sistare
2024-05-06 23:34   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-13 19:28     ` Steven Sistare
2024-05-13 21:21       ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 07/26] migration: VMStateId Steve Sistare
2024-05-07 21:03   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-27 18:20   ` Peter Xu
2024-05-28 15:10     ` Steven Sistare via
2024-05-28 17:44       ` Peter Xu
2024-05-29 17:30         ` Steven Sistare via
2024-05-29 18:53           ` Peter Xu
2024-05-30 17:11             ` Steven Sistare via
2024-05-30 18:03               ` Peter Xu
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 08/26] migration: vmstate_info_void_ptr Steve Sistare
2024-05-07 21:33   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-27 18:31   ` Peter Xu
2024-05-28 15:10     ` Steven Sistare via
2024-05-28 18:21       ` Peter Xu [this message]
2024-05-29 17:30         ` Steven Sistare via
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 09/26] migration: vmstate_register_named Steve Sistare
2024-05-09 14:19   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-09 14:32     ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-13 19:29       ` Steven Sistare
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 10/26] migration: vmstate_unregister_named Steve Sistare
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 11/26] migration: vmstate_register at init time Steve Sistare
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 12/26] migration: vmstate factory object Steve Sistare
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 13/26] physmem: ram_block_create Steve Sistare
2024-05-13 18:37   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-13 19:30     ` Steven Sistare
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 14/26] physmem: hoist guest_memfd creation Steve Sistare
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 15/26] physmem: hoist host memory allocation Steve Sistare
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 16/26] physmem: set ram block idstr earlier Steve Sistare
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 17/26] machine: memfd-alloc option Steve Sistare
2024-05-28 21:12   ` Peter Xu
2024-05-29 17:31     ` Steven Sistare via
2024-05-29 19:14       ` Peter Xu
2024-05-30 17:11         ` Steven Sistare via
2024-05-30 18:14           ` Peter Xu
2024-05-31 19:32             ` Steven Sistare via
2024-06-03 21:48               ` Peter Xu
2024-06-04  7:13                 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-06-04 15:58                   ` Peter Xu
2024-06-04 16:14                     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-06-04 16:41                       ` Peter Xu
2024-06-04 17:16                         ` David Hildenbrand
2024-06-03 10:17       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-06-03 11:59         ` Steven Sistare via
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 18/26] migration: cpr-exec-args parameter Steve Sistare
2024-05-02 12:23   ` Markus Armbruster
2024-05-02 16:00     ` Steven Sistare
2024-05-21  8:13   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 19/26] physmem: preserve ram blocks for cpr Steve Sistare
2024-05-28 21:44   ` Peter Xu
2024-05-29 17:31     ` Steven Sistare via
2024-05-29 19:25       ` Peter Xu
2024-05-30 17:12         ` Steven Sistare via
2024-05-30 18:39           ` Peter Xu
2024-05-31 19:32             ` Steven Sistare via
2024-06-03 22:29               ` Peter Xu
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 20/26] migration: cpr-exec mode Steve Sistare
2024-05-02 12:23   ` Markus Armbruster
2024-05-02 16:00     ` Steven Sistare
2024-05-03  6:26       ` Markus Armbruster
2024-05-21  8:20   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-05-24 14:58   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-27 18:54     ` Steven Sistare via
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 21/26] migration: migrate_add_blocker_mode Steve Sistare
2024-05-09 17:47   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 22/26] migration: ram block cpr-exec blockers Steve Sistare
2024-05-09 18:01   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-13 19:29     ` Steven Sistare
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 23/26] migration: misc " Steve Sistare
2024-05-09 18:05   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-24 12:40   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-27 19:02     ` Steven Sistare via
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 24/26] seccomp: cpr-exec blocker Steve Sistare
2024-05-09 18:16   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-10  7:54   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-05-13 19:29     ` Steven Sistare
2024-05-21  7:14       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 25/26] migration: fix mismatched GPAs during cpr-exec Steve Sistare
2024-05-09 18:39   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-04-29 15:55 ` [PATCH V1 26/26] migration: only-migratable-modes Steve Sistare
2024-05-09 19:14   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-13 19:48     ` Steven Sistare
2024-05-13 21:57       ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-21  8:05   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-05-02 16:13 ` cpr-exec doc (was Re: [PATCH V1 00/26] Live update: cpr-exec) Steven Sistare
2024-05-02 18:15   ` Peter Xu
2024-05-20 18:30 ` [PATCH V1 00/26] Live update: cpr-exec Steven Sistare
2024-05-20 22:28   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-21  2:31     ` Peter Xu
2024-05-21 11:46       ` Steven Sistare
2024-05-27 17:45         ` Peter Xu
2024-05-28 15:10           ` Steven Sistare via
2024-05-28 16:42             ` Peter Xu
2024-05-30 17:17               ` Steven Sistare via
2024-05-30 19:23                 ` Peter Xu
2024-05-24 13:02 ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-05-24 14:07   ` Steven Sistare
2024-05-27 18:07 ` Peter Xu

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