From: "Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>
To: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
Cc: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
George Dunlap <george.dunlap@citrix.com>,
Julien Grall <julien@xen.org>,
Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH for-4.19 3/9] xen/cpu: ensure get_cpu_maps() returns false if CPU operations are underway
Date: Wed, 29 May 2024 18:14:56 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZldUgJRJvytRsjhu@macbook> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3ccdfec3-924a-4ef0-bf8d-653b6019aecb@suse.com>
On Wed, May 29, 2024 at 05:49:48PM +0200, Jan Beulich wrote:
> On 29.05.2024 17:03, Roger Pau Monné wrote:
> > On Wed, May 29, 2024 at 03:35:04PM +0200, Jan Beulich wrote:
> >> On 29.05.2024 11:01, Roger Pau Monne wrote:
> >>> Due to the current rwlock logic, if the CPU calling get_cpu_maps() does so from
> >>> a cpu_hotplug_{begin,done}() region the function will still return success,
> >>> because a CPU taking the rwlock in read mode after having taken it in write
> >>> mode is allowed. Such behavior however defeats the purpose of get_cpu_maps(),
> >>> as it should always return false when called with a CPU hot{,un}plug operation
> >>> is in progress.
> >>
> >> I'm not sure I can agree with this. The CPU doing said operation ought to be
> >> aware of what it is itself doing. And all other CPUs will get back false from
> >> get_cpu_maps().
> >
> > Well, the CPU is aware in the context of cpu_{up,down}(), but not in
> > the interrupts that might be handled while that operation is in
> > progress, see below for a concrete example.
> >
> >>> Otherwise the logic in send_IPI_mask() for example is wrong,
> >>> as it could decide to use the shorthand even when a CPU operation is in
> >>> progress.
> >>
> >> It's also not becoming clear what's wrong there: As long as a CPU isn't
> >> offline enough to not be in cpu_online_map anymore, it may well need to still
> >> be the target of IPIs, and targeting it with a shorthand then is still fine.
> >
> > The issue is in the online path: there's a window where the CPU is
> > online (and the lapic active), but cpu_online_map hasn't been updated
> > yet. A specific example would be time_calibration() being executed on
> > the CPU that is running cpu_up(). That could result in a shorthand
> > IPI being used, but the mask in r.cpu_calibration_map not containing
> > the CPU that's being brought up online because it's not yet added to
> > cpu_online_map. Then the number of CPUs actually running
> > time_calibration_rendezvous_fn won't match the weight of the cpumask
> > in r.cpu_calibration_map.
>
> I see, but maybe only partly. Prior to the CPU having its bit set in
> cpu_online_map, can it really take interrupts already? Shouldn't it be
> running with IRQs off until later, thus preventing it from making it
> into the rendezvous function in the first place? But yes, I can see
> how the IRQ (IPI) then being delivered later (once IRQs are enabled)
> might cause problems, too.
The interrupt will get set in IRR and handled when interrupts are
enabled.
>
> Plus, with how the rendezvous function is invoked (via
> on_selected_cpus() with the mask copied from cpu_online_map), the
> first check in smp_call_function_interrupt() ought to prevent the
> function from being called on the CPU being onlined. A problem would
> arise though if the IPI arrived later and call_data was already
> (partly or fully) overwritten with the next request.
Yeah, there's a small window where the fields in call_data are out of
sync.
> >> In any event this would again affect only the CPU leading the CPU operation,
> >> which should clearly know at which point(s) it is okay to send IPIs. Are we
> >> actually sending any IPIs from within CPU-online or CPU-offline paths?
> >
> > Yes, I've seen the time rendezvous happening while in the middle of a
> > hotplug operation, and the CPU coordinating the rendezvous being the
> > one doing the CPU hotplug operation, so get_cpu_maps() returning true.
>
> Right, yet together with ...
>
> >> Together with the earlier paragraph the critical window would be between the
> >> CPU being taken off of cpu_online_map and the CPU actually going "dead" (i.e.
> >> on x86: its LAPIC becoming unresponsive to other than INIT/SIPI). And even
> >> then the question would be what bad, if any, would happen to that CPU if an
> >> IPI was still targeted at it by way of using the shorthand. I'm pretty sure
> >> it runs with IRQs off at that time, so no ordinary IRQ could be delivered.
> >>
> >>> Adjust the logic in get_cpu_maps() to return false when the CPUs lock is
> >>> already hold in write mode by the current CPU, as read_trylock() would
> >>> otherwise return true.
> >>>
> >>> Fixes: 868a01021c6f ('rwlock: allow recursive read locking when already locked in write mode')
> >>
> >> I'm puzzled by this as well: Prior to that and the change referenced by its
> >> Fixes: tag, recursive spin locks were used. For the purposes here that's the
> >> same as permitting read locking even when the write lock is already held by
> >> the local CPU.
> >
> > I see, so the Fixes should be:
> >
> > x86/smp: use APIC ALLBUT destination shorthand when possible
> >
> > Instead, which is the commit that started using get_cpu_maps() in
> > send_IPI_mask().
>
> ... this I then wonder whether it's really only the condition in
> send_IPI_mask() which needs further amending, rather than fiddling with
> get_cpu_maps().
That the other option, but I have impression it's more fragile to
adjust the condition in send_IPI_mask() rather than fiddle with
get_cpu_maps().
However if that's the preference I can adjust.
Thanks, Roger.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-05-29 16:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-05-29 9:01 [PATCH for-4.19 0/9] x86/irq: fixes for CPU hot{,un}plug Roger Pau Monne
2024-05-29 9:01 ` [PATCH for-4.19 1/9] x86/irq: remove offline CPUs from old CPU mask when adjusting move_cleanup_count Roger Pau Monne
2024-05-29 12:40 ` Jan Beulich
2024-05-29 15:15 ` Roger Pau Monné
2024-05-29 15:27 ` Jan Beulich
2024-05-29 15:34 ` Roger Pau Monné
2024-05-29 9:01 ` [PATCH for-4.19 2/9] xen/cpu: do not get the CPU map in stop_machine_run() Roger Pau Monne
2024-05-29 13:04 ` Jan Beulich
2024-05-29 15:20 ` Roger Pau Monné
2024-05-29 15:31 ` Jan Beulich
2024-05-29 15:48 ` Roger Pau Monné
2024-05-29 9:01 ` [PATCH for-4.19 3/9] xen/cpu: ensure get_cpu_maps() returns false if CPU operations are underway Roger Pau Monne
2024-05-29 13:35 ` Jan Beulich
2024-05-29 15:03 ` Roger Pau Monné
2024-05-29 15:49 ` Jan Beulich
2024-05-29 16:14 ` Roger Pau Monné [this message]
2024-05-31 7:02 ` Jan Beulich
2024-05-31 7:31 ` Roger Pau Monné
2024-05-31 8:33 ` Jan Beulich
2024-05-31 9:15 ` Roger Pau Monné
2024-05-29 9:01 ` [PATCH for-4.19 4/9] x86/irq: describe how the interrupt CPU movement works Roger Pau Monne
2024-05-29 13:57 ` Jan Beulich
2024-05-29 15:28 ` Roger Pau Monné
2024-05-31 7:06 ` Jan Beulich
2024-05-31 7:39 ` Roger Pau Monné
2024-05-29 9:01 ` [PATCH for-4.19 5/9] x86/irq: limit interrupt movement done by fixup_irqs() Roger Pau Monne
2024-05-29 9:01 ` [PATCH for-4.19 6/9] x86/irq: restrict CPU movement in set_desc_affinity() Roger Pau Monne
2024-05-29 9:01 ` [PATCH for-4.19 7/9] x86/irq: deal with old_cpu_mask for interrupts in movement in fixup_irqs() Roger Pau Monne
2024-05-29 9:01 ` [PATCH for-4.19 8/9] x86/irq: handle moving interrupts in _assign_irq_vector() Roger Pau Monne
2024-05-29 9:01 ` [PATCH for-4.19 9/9] x86/irq: forward pending interrupts to new destination in fixup_irqs() Roger Pau Monne
2024-05-29 9:33 ` Andrew Cooper
2024-05-29 9:37 ` [PATCH for-4.19 0/9] x86/irq: fixes for CPU hot{,un}plug Oleksii K.
2024-06-11 13:25 ` Jan Beulich
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