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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Binbin Wu <binbin.wu@linux.intel.com>,
	Michael Roth <michael.roth@amd.com>,
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	liam.merwick@oracle.com,  Brijesh Singh <brijesh.singh@amd.com>,
	Isaku Yamahata <isaku.yamahata@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v15 09/20] KVM: SEV: Add support to handle MSR based Page State Change VMGEXIT
Date: Wed, 29 May 2024 13:02:06 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZleJvmCawKqmpFIa@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABgObfajCDkbDbK6-QyZABGTh=5rmE5q3ifvHfZD1A2Z+u0v3A@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, May 28, 2024, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 2:26 PM Binbin Wu <binbin.wu@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> > > It seems like TDX should be able to do something similar by limiting the
> > > size of each KVM_HC_MAP_GPA_RANGE to TDX_MAP_GPA_MAX_LEN, and then
> > > returning TDG_VP_VMCALL_RETRY to guest if the original size was greater
> > > than TDX_MAP_GPA_MAX_LEN. But at that point you're effectively done with
> > > the entire request and can return to guest, so it actually seems a little
> > > more straightforward than the SNP case above. E.g. TDX has a 1:1 mapping
> > > between TDG_VP_VMCALL_MAP_GPA and KVM_HC_MAP_GPA_RANGE events. (And even
> > > similar names :))
> > >
> > > So doesn't seem like there's a good reason to expose any of these
> > > throttling details to userspace,
> 
> I think userspace should never be worried about throttling. I would
> say it's up to the guest to split the GPA into multiple ranges,

I agree in principle, but in practice I can understand not wanting to split up
the conversion in the guest due to the additional overhead of the world switches.

>  but that's not how arch/x86/coco/tdx/tdx.c is implemented so instead we can
>  do the split in KVM instead. It can be a module parameter or VM attribute,
>  establishing the size that will be processed in a single TDVMCALL.

Is it just interrupts that are problematic for conversions?  I assume so, because
I can't think of anything else where telling the guest to retry would be appropriate
and useful.

If so, KVM shouldn't need to unconditionally restrict the size for a single
TDVMCALL, KVM just needs to ensure interrupts are handled soonish.  To do that,
KVM could use a much smaller chunk size, e.g. 64KiB (completely made up number),
and keep processing the TDVMCALL as long as there is no interrupt pending.
Hopefully that would obviate the need for a tunable.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-29 20:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-01  8:51 [PATCH v15 00/20] Add AMD Secure Nested Paging (SEV-SNP) Hypervisor Support Michael Roth
2024-05-01  8:51 ` [PATCH v15 01/20] Revert "KVM: x86: Add gmem hook for determining max NPT mapping level" Michael Roth
2024-05-01  8:51 ` [PATCH v15 02/20] KVM: x86: Add hook for determining max NPT mapping level Michael Roth
2024-05-02 23:11   ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-07 17:48   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-08-01 17:39   ` [PATCH] Fixes: f32fb32820b1 ("KVM: x86: Add hook for determining max NPT mapping level") Ackerley Tng
2024-08-01 17:57     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-08-01 17:59       ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-08-01 18:15     ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-05-01  8:51 ` [PATCH v15 03/20] KVM: SEV: Select KVM_GENERIC_PRIVATE_MEM when CONFIG_KVM_AMD_SEV=y Michael Roth
2024-05-01  8:51 ` [PATCH v15 04/20] KVM: SEV: Add initial SEV-SNP support Michael Roth
2024-05-01  8:51 ` [PATCH v15 05/20] KVM: SEV: Add KVM_SEV_SNP_LAUNCH_START command Michael Roth
2024-05-01  8:51 ` [PATCH v15 06/20] KVM: SEV: Add KVM_SEV_SNP_LAUNCH_UPDATE command Michael Roth
2024-05-01  8:51 ` [PATCH v15 07/20] KVM: SEV: Add KVM_SEV_SNP_LAUNCH_FINISH command Michael Roth
2024-05-01  8:51 ` [PATCH v15 08/20] KVM: SEV: Add support to handle GHCB GPA register VMGEXIT Michael Roth
2024-05-01  8:51 ` [PATCH v15 09/20] KVM: SEV: Add support to handle MSR based Page State Change VMGEXIT Michael Roth
2024-05-16  8:28   ` Binbin Wu
2024-05-16 17:23     ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-05-21  0:49       ` Binbin Wu
2024-05-21 21:49         ` Michael Roth
2024-05-27 12:25           ` Binbin Wu
2024-05-28 10:39             ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-05-29 20:02               ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2024-05-31  1:22                 ` Binbin Wu
2024-05-31 13:10                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-05-30 16:47           ` Zhi Wang
2024-05-01  8:52 ` [PATCH v15 10/20] KVM: SEV: Add support to handle " Michael Roth
2024-05-01  8:52 ` [PATCH v15 11/20] KVM: SEV: Add support to handle RMP nested page faults Michael Roth
2024-05-01  8:52 ` [PATCH v15 12/20] KVM: SEV: Support SEV-SNP AP Creation NAE event Michael Roth
2024-05-01  8:52 ` [PATCH v15 13/20] KVM: SEV: Implement gmem hook for initializing private pages Michael Roth
2024-05-20 10:16   ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-20 17:35     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-20 21:57       ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-20 23:15         ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-20 23:41           ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-21  0:30             ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-20 19:14     ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-01  8:52 ` [PATCH v15 14/20] KVM: SEV: Implement gmem hook for invalidating " Michael Roth
2024-05-01  8:52 ` [PATCH v15 15/20] KVM: x86: Implement hook for determining max NPT mapping level Michael Roth
2024-05-01  8:52 ` [PATCH v15 16/20] KVM: SEV: Avoid WBINVD for HVA-based MMU notifications for SNP Michael Roth
2024-05-01  8:52 ` [PATCH v15 17/20] KVM: SVM: Add module parameter to enable SEV-SNP Michael Roth
2024-05-01  8:52 ` [PATCH v15 18/20] KVM: SEV: Provide support for SNP_GUEST_REQUEST NAE event Michael Roth
2024-05-01  8:52 ` [PATCH v15 19/20] KVM: SEV: Provide support for SNP_EXTENDED_GUEST_REQUEST " Michael Roth
2024-05-13 23:48   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-14  2:51     ` Michael Roth
2024-05-14 14:36       ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-15  1:25         ` [PATCH] KVM: SEV: Replace KVM_EXIT_VMGEXIT with KVM_EXIT_SNP_REQ_CERTS Michael Roth
2024-08-16 21:50           ` Dionna Amalie Glaze
2024-08-16 21:58             ` Dionna Amalie Glaze
2024-05-01  8:52 ` [PATCH v15 20/20] crypto: ccp: Add the SNP_VLEK_LOAD command Michael Roth
2024-05-07 18:04 ` [PATCH v15 00/20] Add AMD Secure Nested Paging (SEV-SNP) Hypervisor Support Paolo Bonzini
2024-05-07 18:14   ` Michael Roth
2024-05-10  2:34     ` Michael Roth
2024-05-10  1:58 ` [PATCH v15 21/23] KVM: MMU: Disable fast path for private memslots Michael Roth
2024-05-10  1:58   ` [PATCH v15 22/23] KVM: SEV: Fix return code interpretation for RMP nested page faults Michael Roth
2024-05-10 13:58     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-10 15:36       ` Michael Roth
2024-05-10 16:01       ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-05-10 16:37         ` Michael Roth
2024-05-10 16:59           ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-05-10 17:25             ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-05-14  8:10             ` Borislav Petkov
2024-05-10  1:58   ` [PATCH v15 23/23] KVM: SEV: Fix PSC handling for SMASH/UNSMASH and partial update ops Michael Roth
2024-05-10 17:09     ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-05-10 19:08       ` Michael Roth
2024-05-10 13:47   ` [PATCH v15 21/23] KVM: MMU: Disable fast path for private memslots Sean Christopherson
2024-05-10 13:50     ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-05-10 15:27       ` Michael Roth
2024-05-10 15:59         ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-10 17:47           ` Isaku Yamahata

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