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From: Brendan Jackman <jackmanb@google.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Pavel Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] mm,memory_hotplug: {READ,WRITE}_ONCE unsynchronized zone data
Date: Fri, 31 May 2024 16:41:05 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zln9oS0njmNAP8lU@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Zk39BD7NPbP7WJOz@google.com>

On Wed, May 22, 2024 at 02:11:16PM +0000, Brendan Jackman wrote:
> On Wed, May 22, 2024 at 04:05:12PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> > On 21.05.24 14:57, Brendan Jackman wrote:
> > > +	return zone->zone_start_pfn + READ_ONCE(zone->spanned_pages);
> > 
> > It's weird to apply that logic only to spanned_pages, whereby zone_start_pfn
> > can (and will) similarly change when onlining/offlining memory.
> > 
> Oh, yep. For some reason I had decided that zone_start_pfn was fixed
> but that is (actually very obviously) not true!
> 
> Will take a closer look and extend v2 to cover that too, unless
> someone finds a reason this whole patch is nonsense.
> 
> Thanks for the review.

Hmm so while poking around during spare moments this week I learned
that compaction.c also stores a bunch of data in struct zone that is
unsynchronized.

It seems pretty unlikely that you can corrupt any memory there (unless
there's some race possible with pfn_to_online_page, which is an
orthogonal question), but it does seem like if the compiler gets smart
with us we could maybe have a compaction run that takes quasi-forever
or something weird like that.

It seems easy enough to just spam READ_ONCE/WRITE_ONCE everywhere
there too, this would remove that risk, make KCSAN happy and serve as
a kinda "this is unsynchronized, take care" comment. (There's also at
least one place where we could put data_race()).

On the other hand it's a bit verbose & visually ugly. Personally I
think it's a pretty minor downside, but anyone feel differently?


      reply	other threads:[~2024-05-31 16:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-21 12:57 [PATCH 0/2] Clean up hotplug zone data synchronization Brendan Jackman
2024-05-21 12:57 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm,memory_hotplug: Remove un-taken lock Brendan Jackman
2024-05-22 14:09   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-05-22 14:27     ` Brendan Jackman
2024-05-22 15:24       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-05-24 12:02         ` Brendan Jackman
2024-05-27  7:53           ` David Hildenbrand
2024-05-21 12:57 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm,memory_hotplug: {READ,WRITE}_ONCE unsynchronized zone data Brendan Jackman
2024-05-22  4:25   ` Lance Yang
2024-05-22  8:38     ` Brendan Jackman
2024-05-22  9:20       ` Lance Yang
2024-05-22 10:10         ` Brendan Jackman
2024-05-22 11:23           ` Lance Yang
2024-05-22  8:42   ` Brendan Jackman
2024-05-22 14:05   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-05-22 14:11     ` Brendan Jackman
2024-05-31 16:41       ` Brendan Jackman [this message]

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