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From: "Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>
To: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
Cc: "Andrew Cooper" <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	"Marek Marczykowski-Górecki" <marmarek@invisiblethingslab.com>,
	xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>,
	javi.merino@cloud.com
Subject: Re: Segment truncation in multi-segment PCI handling?
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2024 11:46:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZmbLZHSOg8KuRvAw@macbook> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a8225a94-54ed-4b24-8867-b9da65cb0a14@suse.com>

On Mon, Jun 10, 2024 at 10:41:19AM +0200, Jan Beulich wrote:
> On 10.06.2024 10:28, Roger Pau Monné wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 10, 2024 at 09:58:11AM +0200, Jan Beulich wrote:
> >> On 07.06.2024 21:52, Andrew Cooper wrote:
> >>> On 07/06/2024 8:46 pm, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote:
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> I've got a new system, and it has two PCI segments:
> >>>>
> >>>>     0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Device 7d14 (rev 04)
> >>>>     0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Meteor Lake-P [Intel Graphics] (rev 08)
> >>>>     ...
> >>>>     10000:e0:06.0 System peripheral: Intel Corporation RST VMD Managed Controller
> >>>>     10000:e0:06.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Device 7ecb (rev 10)
> >>>>     10000:e1:00.0 Non-Volatile memory controller: Phison Electronics Corporation PS5021-E21 PCIe4 NVMe Controller (DRAM-less) (rev 01)
> >>>>
> >>>> But looks like Xen doesn't handle it correctly:
> > 
> > In the meantime you can probably disable VMD from the firmware and the
> > NVMe devices should appear on the regular PCI bus.
> > 
> >>>>     (XEN) 0000:e0:06.0: unknown type 0
> >>>>     (XEN) 0000:e0:06.2: unknown type 0
> >>>>     (XEN) 0000:e1:00.0: unknown type 0
> >>>>     ...
> >>>>     (XEN) ==== PCI devices ====
> >>>>     (XEN) ==== segment 0000 ====
> >>>>     (XEN) 0000:e1:00.0 - NULL - node -1 
> >>>>     (XEN) 0000:e0:06.2 - NULL - node -1 
> >>>>     (XEN) 0000:e0:06.0 - NULL - node -1 
> >>>>     (XEN) 0000:2b:00.0 - d0 - node -1  - MSIs < 161 >
> >>>>     (XEN) 0000:00:1f.6 - d0 - node -1  - MSIs < 148 >
> >>>>     ...
> >>>>
> >>>> This isn't exactly surprising, since pci_sbdf_t.seg is uint16_t, so
> >>>> 0x10000 doesn't fit. OSDev wiki says PCI Express can have 65536 PCI
> >>>> Segment Groups, each with 256 bus segments.
> >>>>
> >>>> Fortunately, I don't need this to work, if I disable VMD in the
> >>>> firmware, I get a single segment and everything works fine.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> This is a known issue.  Works is being done, albeit slowly.
> >>
> >> Is work being done? After the design session in Prague I put it on my
> >> todo list, but at low priority. I'd be happy to take it off there if I
> >> knew someone else is looking into this.
> > 
> > We had a design session about VMD?  If so I'm afraid I've missed it.
> 
> In Prague last year, not just now in Lisbon.
> 
> >>> 0x10000 is indeed not a spec-compliant PCI segment.  It's something
> >>> model specific the Linux VMD driver is doing.
> >>
> >> I wouldn't call this "model specific" - this numbering is purely a
> >> software one (and would need coordinating between Dom0 and Xen).
> > 
> > Hm, TBH I'm not sure whether Xen needs to be aware of VMD devices.
> > The resources used by the VMD devices are all assigned to the VMD
> > root.  My current hypothesis is that it might be possible to manage
> > such devices without Xen being aware of their existence.
> 
> Well, it may be possible to have things work in Dom0 without Xen
> knowing much. Then Dom0 would need to suppress any physdevop calls
> with such software-only segment numbers (in order to at least not
> confuse Xen). I'd be curious though how e.g. MSI setup would work in
> such a scenario.

IIRC from my read of the spec, VMD devices don't use regular MSI
data/address fields, and instead configure an index into the MSI table
on the VMD root for the interrupt they want to use.  It's only the VMD
root device (which is a normal device on the PCI bus) that has
MSI(-X) configured with real vectors, and multiplexes interrupts for
all devices behind it.

If we had to passthrough VMD devices we might have to intercept writes
to the VMD MSI(-X) entries, but since they can only be safely assigned
to dom0 I think it's not an issue ATM (see below).

> Plus clearly any passing through of a device behind
> the VMD bridge will quite likely need Xen involvement (unless of
> course the only way of doing such pass-through was to pass on the
> entire hierarchy).

All VMD devices share the Requestor ID of the VMD root, so AFAIK it's
not possible to passthrough them (unless you passthrough the whole VMD
root) because they all share the same context entry on the IOMMU.

Thanks, Roger.


  reply	other threads:[~2024-06-10  9:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-07 19:46 Segment truncation in multi-segment PCI handling? Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
2024-06-07 19:52 ` Andrew Cooper
2024-06-10  7:58   ` Jan Beulich
2024-06-10  8:28     ` Roger Pau Monné
2024-06-10  8:41       ` Jan Beulich
2024-06-10  9:46         ` Roger Pau Monné [this message]
2024-06-10 10:11           ` Jan Beulich
2024-06-10 10:45             ` Marek Marczykowski-Górecki

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