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From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Alexander Monakov <amonakov@ispras.ru>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Richard Henderson <richard.henderson@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] Reinstate ability to use Qemu on pre-SSE4.1 x86 hosts
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2024 18:00:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZmnUPZ0fDZBok6YQ@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABgObfZHBGxS-D9LdM1v0oDXBHoKm2-A4FknixmqjfJeQR1YLw@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 01:51:31PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 1:38 PM Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com> wrote:
> > If we want to use POPCNT in the TCG code, can we not do a runtime check
> > and selectively build pieces of code with  __attribute__((target("popcnt"))),
> > as we've done historically for the bufferiszero.c code, rather than
> > changing the entire QEMU baseline ?
> 
> bufferiszero.c has a very quick check in front of the indirect call
> and runs for several hundred clock cycles, so the tradeoff is
> different there.
> 
> I guess that, because these helpers are called by TCG, you wouldn't
> pay the price of the indirect call. However, adding all this
> infrastructure for 13-15 year old CPUs is not very enthralling.

Ah, so the distinction is that the old code had a runtime check
on 'have_popcnt' (and similar), where as now that check is eliminated
at compile time, since the condition is a constant.

Rather than re-introducing a runtime check again for everyone, could
we make it a configure time argument whether to assume x86_64-v2 ?
So those who are happy with a increased baseline can achieve the
maximum performance with all checks eliminated at compile time,
while still allowing the tradeoff of a dynamic check for those who
prefer compatibility over peak perfr ?

With regards,
Daniel
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-06-12 17:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-12 10:55 [PATCH 0/5] Reinstate ability to use Qemu on pre-SSE4.1 x86 hosts Alexander Monakov
2024-06-12 10:55 ` [PATCH 1/5] Revert "host/i386: assume presence of POPCNT" Alexander Monakov
2024-06-12 10:55 ` [PATCH 2/5] Revert "host/i386: assume presence of SSSE3" Alexander Monakov
2024-06-12 10:55 ` [PATCH 3/5] Revert "host/i386: assume presence of SSE2" Alexander Monakov
2024-06-12 10:55 ` [PATCH 4/5] Revert "host/i386: assume presence of CMOV" Alexander Monakov
2024-06-12 10:55 ` [PATCH 5/5] Revert "meson: assume x86-64-v2 baseline ISA" Alexander Monakov
2024-06-12 11:04 ` [PATCH 0/5] Reinstate ability to use Qemu on pre-SSE4.1 x86 hosts Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-06-12 11:12   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-06-12 11:19     ` Alexander Monakov
2024-06-12 11:29       ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-06-12 11:46         ` Alexander Monakov
2024-06-12 11:58           ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-06-12 12:10             ` Alexander Monakov
2024-06-12 12:13               ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-06-12 13:34                 ` Alexander Monakov
2024-06-12 13:39                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-06-12 14:27                     ` Alexander Monakov
2024-06-12 11:38     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-06-12 11:51       ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-06-12 12:21         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-06-12 15:09           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-06-12 15:29             ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-06-12 15:40             ` Alexander Monakov
2024-06-12 16:24               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-06-12 17:06             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-06-12 17:00         ` Daniel P. Berrangé [this message]
2024-06-12 17:08           ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-06-23 21:27     ` Alexander Monakov
2024-06-23 22:14       ` Richard Henderson
2024-06-12 11:14   ` Alexander Monakov

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