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From: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
Cc: Alexander Potapenko <glider@google.com>,
	elver@google.com, dvyukov@google.com,
	dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, peterz@infradead.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, x86@kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kasan-dev@googlegroups.com,
	"Kirill A . Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] lib/Kconfig.debug: disable LOCK_DEBUGGING_SUPPORT under KMSAN
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2024 11:51:23 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZnsRq7RNLMnZsr6S@boqun-archlinux> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5a38bded-9723-4811-83b5-14e2312ee75d@intel.com>

On Fri, Jun 21, 2024 at 09:23:25AM -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 6/21/24 02:49, Alexander Potapenko wrote:
> >  config LOCK_DEBUGGING_SUPPORT
> >  	bool
> > -	depends on TRACE_IRQFLAGS_SUPPORT && STACKTRACE_SUPPORT && LOCKDEP_SUPPORT
> > +	depends on TRACE_IRQFLAGS_SUPPORT && STACKTRACE_SUPPORT && LOCKDEP_SUPPORT && !KMSAN
> >  	default y
> 
> This kinda stinks.  Practically, it'll mean that anyone turning on KMSAN
> will accidentally turn off lockdep.  That's really nasty, especially for
> folks who are turning on debug options left and right to track down
> nasty bugs.
> 
> I'd *MUCH* rather hide KMSAN:
> 
> config KMSAN
>         bool "KMSAN: detector of uninitialized values use"
>         depends on HAVE_ARCH_KMSAN && HAVE_KMSAN_COMPILER
>         depends on DEBUG_KERNEL && !KASAN && !KCSAN
>         depends on !PREEMPT_RT
> +	depends on !LOCKDEP
> 
> Because, frankly, lockdep is way more important than KMSAN.
> 
> But ideally, we'd allow them to coexist somehow.  Have we even discussed
> the problem with the lockdep folks?  For instance, I'd much rather have
> a relaxed lockdep with no checking in pfn_valid() than no lockdep at all.

The only locks used in pfn_valid() are rcu_read_lock_sched(), right? If
so, could you try (don't tell Paul ;-)) replace rcu_read_lock_sched()
with preempt_disable() and rcu_read_unlock_sched() with
preempt_enable()? That would avoid calling into lockdep. If that works
for KMSAN, we can either have a special rcu_read_lock_sched() or call
lockdep_recursion_inc() in instrumented pfn_valid() to disable lockdep
temporarily.

[Cc Paul]

Regards,
Boqun

  reply	other threads:[~2024-06-25 18:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-21  9:48 [PATCH 1/3] x86: mm: disable KMSAN instrumentation for physaddr.c Alexander Potapenko
2024-06-21  9:49 ` [PATCH 2/3] lib/Kconfig.debug: disable LOCK_DEBUGGING_SUPPORT under KMSAN Alexander Potapenko
2024-06-21 15:02   ` Kirill A . Shutemov
2024-06-21 16:16   ` Dave Hansen
2024-06-21 16:23   ` Dave Hansen
2024-06-25 18:51     ` Boqun Feng [this message]
2024-06-25 19:06       ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-06-25 19:37         ` Boqun Feng
2024-06-26  8:35           ` Alexander Potapenko
2024-06-21  9:49 ` [PATCH 3/3] x86/traps: fix an objtool warning in handle_bug() Alexander Potapenko
2024-06-21 15:09   ` Kirill A . Shutemov
2024-06-21 14:57 ` [PATCH 1/3] x86: mm: disable KMSAN instrumentation for physaddr.c Kirill A . Shutemov
2024-06-21 16:40 ` Dave Hansen

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