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From: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: Serge Semin <fancer.lancer@gmail.com>
Cc: andrew@lunn.ch, si.yanteng@linux.dev,
	Huacai Chen <chenhuacai@kernel.org>,
	Yanteng Si <siyanteng@loongson.cn>,
	hkallweit1@gmail.com, peppe.cavallaro@st.com,
	alexandre.torgue@foss.st.com, joabreu@synopsys.com,
	Jose.Abreu@synopsys.com, guyinggang@loongson.cn,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, chris.chenfeiyang@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v13 12/15] net: stmmac: Fixed failure to set network speed to 1000.
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2024 19:56:07 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZoWex6T0QbRBmDFE@shell.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <hdqpsuq7n4aalav7jtzttfksw5ct36alowsc65e72armjt2h67@shph7z32rbc6>

On Wed, Jul 03, 2024 at 07:56:31PM +0300, Serge Semin wrote:
> One another statement in IEEE 802.3 C40 that implies the AN being
> mandatory is that 1000BASE-T PHYs determine their MASTER or SLAVE part
> during the Auto-Negotiation process. The part determines the clock
> source utilized by the PHYs: "The MASTER PHY uses a local clock to
> determine the timing of transmitter operations. The SLAVE PHY recovers
> the clock from the received signal and uses it to determine the timing
> of transmitter operations, i.e.," (40.1.3 Operation of 1000BASE-T)
> 
> So I guess that without Auto-negotiation the link just won't be
> established due to the clocks missconfiguration.

Oh damn, I did a reply, then cocked up sending it (lost it instead!)
So, this is going to be a brief response now.

It seems AN is basically required for 1000base-T.

> > Alternatively, maybe just implement the Marvell Alaska solution
> > to this problem (if the user attempts to disable AN on a PHY
> > supporting only base-T at gigabit speeds, then we silently force
> > AN with SPEED_1000 and DUPLEX_FULL.
> 
> I am not that much knowledgable about the PHY-lib and PHY-link
> internals, but if we get to establish that the standard indeed
> implies the AN being mandatory, then this sounds like the least
> harmful solution from the user-space point of view.

The Atheros PHYs are another PHY where we should not be disabling
AN when wishing to use 1000base-T (so says the datasheet - I did
quote it in my original reply but lost that...)

As has already been mentioned, Marvell Alaska takes an interesting
approach - when BMCR AN enable is cleared but speed is forced to
1000, it internally keeps AN enabled and advertises the appropriate
1G speed + duplex capability bit depending on the BMCR duplex bit.

Rather than erroring out, I think it may be better to just adopt
the Marvell solution to this problem to give consistent behaviour
across all PHYs.

-- 
RMK's Patch system: https://www.armlinux.org.uk/developer/patches/
FTTP is here! 80Mbps down 10Mbps up. Decent connectivity at last!

  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-03 18:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-29 10:17 [PATCH net-next v13 00/15] stmmac: Add Loongson platform support Yanteng Si
2024-05-29 10:18 ` [PATCH net-next v13 01/15] net: stmmac: Move the atds flag to the stmmac_dma_cfg structure Yanteng Si
2024-05-29 10:18 ` [PATCH net-next v13 02/15] net: stmmac: Add multi-channel support Yanteng Si
2024-06-14 13:31   ` Serge Semin
2024-06-15  9:18     ` Yanteng Si
2024-05-29 10:18 ` [PATCH net-next v13 03/15] net: stmmac: Export dwmac1000_dma_ops Yanteng Si
2024-05-29 10:19 ` [PATCH net-next v13 04/15] net: stmmac: dwmac-loongson: Drop duplicated hash-based filter size init Yanteng Si
2024-06-14 13:46   ` Serge Semin
2024-05-29 10:19 ` [PATCH net-next v13 05/15] net: stmmac: dwmac-loongson: Use PCI_DEVICE_DATA() macro for device identification Yanteng Si
2024-05-29 10:19 ` [PATCH net-next v13 06/15] net: stmmac: dwmac-loongson: Detach GMAC-specific platform data init Yanteng Si
2024-06-14 16:19   ` Serge Semin
2024-06-17 10:00     ` Yanteng Si
2024-06-24  1:47       ` Serge Semin
2024-06-25 12:31         ` Yanteng Si
2024-07-01 22:57           ` Serge Semin
2024-07-02  9:24             ` Yanteng Si
2024-07-02  8:28   ` Serge Semin
2024-07-02 13:14     ` Yanteng Si
2024-07-02 14:09       ` Serge Semin
2024-07-03  9:41         ` Yanteng Si
2024-07-03 16:19           ` Serge Semin
2024-07-04  8:56             ` Yanteng Si
2024-07-05 10:16               ` Serge Semin
2024-07-05 10:45                 ` Yanteng Si
2024-07-05 10:59                   ` Serge Semin
2024-07-05 11:29                     ` Yanteng Si
2024-07-05 11:53                       ` Serge Semin
2024-07-06 13:31                         ` Yanteng Si
2024-07-07 10:40                           ` Serge Semin
2024-07-08  7:00                             ` Yanteng Si
2024-05-29 10:19 ` [PATCH net-next v13 07/15] net: stmmac: dwmac-loongson: Init ref and PTP clocks rate Yanteng Si
2024-05-29 10:19 ` [PATCH net-next v13 08/15] net: stmmac: dwmac-loongson: Add phy_interface for Loongson GMAC Yanteng Si
2024-07-02  8:43   ` Serge Semin
2024-07-04  9:18     ` Yanteng Si
2024-05-29 10:19 ` [PATCH net-next v13 09/15] net: stmmac: dwmac-loongson: Introduce PCI device info data Yanteng Si
2024-07-02  9:18   ` Serge Semin
2024-07-04  9:18     ` Yanteng Si
2024-05-29 10:20 ` [PATCH net-next v13 10/15] net: stmmac: dwmac-loongson: Add DT-less GMAC PCI-device support Yanteng Si
2024-07-02  9:35   ` Serge Semin
2024-07-04  9:17     ` Yanteng Si
2024-05-29 10:20 ` [PATCH net-next v13 11/15] net: stmmac: dwmac-loongson: Add loongson_dwmac_dt_config Yanteng Si
2024-07-02  9:46   ` Serge Semin
2024-07-04  9:15     ` Yanteng Si
2024-05-29 10:20 ` [PATCH net-next v13 12/15] net: stmmac: Fixed failure to set network speed to 1000 Yanteng Si
2024-05-30  2:25   ` Huacai Chen
2024-05-30  7:22     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-06-04 11:29       ` si.yanteng
2024-07-02 10:31         ` Serge Semin
2024-07-02 15:08           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-07-03 16:56             ` Serge Semin
2024-07-03 18:56               ` Russell King (Oracle) [this message]
2024-07-03 19:09                 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-07-03 20:33                   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-07-05 11:17                     ` Yanteng Si
2024-07-05 11:31                       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-07-05 11:38                         ` Yanteng Si
2024-05-29 10:21 ` [PATCH net-next v13 13/15] net: stmmac: dwmac-loongson: Drop pci_enable/disable_msi temporarily Yanteng Si
2024-07-01  1:17   ` Serge Semin
2024-07-04  9:32     ` Yanteng Si
2024-05-29 10:21 ` [PATCH net-next v13 14/15] net: stmmac: dwmac-loongson: Add Loongson GNET support Yanteng Si
2024-05-30  2:46   ` Huacai Chen
2024-06-05  9:43     ` Yanteng Si
2024-06-10 12:12     ` Yanteng Si
2024-07-02 13:43   ` Serge Semin
2024-07-03  1:19     ` Huacai Chen
2024-07-05 10:40       ` Serge Semin
2024-07-05 12:06         ` Yanteng Si
2024-07-05 12:17           ` Serge Semin
2024-07-06 10:30             ` Yanteng Si
2024-07-06 10:36               ` Huacai Chen
2024-07-07 10:51                 ` Serge Semin
2024-07-07 13:57                   ` Huacai Chen
2024-07-08  7:31                     ` Yanteng Si
2024-07-03 10:27     ` Yanteng Si
2024-05-29 10:21 ` [PATCH net-next v13 15/15] net: stmmac: dwmac-loongson: Add loongson module author Yanteng Si
2024-06-05 11:30 ` [PATCH net-next v13 00/15] stmmac: Add Loongson platform support Serge Semin
2024-06-06 12:27   ` Yanteng Si
2024-06-06 18:27 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-06-06 18:39   ` Andrew Lunn

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