From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: Ackerley Tng <ackerleytng@google.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 0/5] mm/gup: Introduce exclusive GUP pinning
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2024 10:34:55 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZpavP3K_xAMiu4kE@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240716160842.GD1482543@nvidia.com>
On Tue, Jul 16, 2024, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2024 at 09:03:00AM -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote:
>
> > > + To support huge pages, guest_memfd will take ownership of the hugepages, and
> > > provide interested parties (userspace, KVM, iommu) with pages to be used.
> > > + guest_memfd will track usage of (sub)pages, for both private and shared
> > > memory
> > > + Pages will be broken into smaller (probably 4K) chunks at creation time to
> > > simplify implementation (as opposed to splitting at runtime when private to
> > > shared conversion is requested by the guest)
> >
> > FWIW, I doubt we'll ever release a version with mmap()+guest_memfd support that
> > shatters pages at creation. I can see it being an intermediate step, e.g. to
> > prove correctness and provide a bisection point, but shattering hugepages at
> > creation would effectively make hugepage support useless.
>
> Why? If the private memory retains its contiguity seperately but the
> struct pages are removed from the vmemmap, what is the downside?
Oooh, you're talking about shattering only the host userspace mappings. Now I
understand why there was a bit of a disconnect, I was thinking you (hand-wavy
everyone) were saying that KVM would immediately shatter its own mappings too.
> As I understand it the point is to give a large contiguous range to
> the private world and use only 4k pages to give the hypervisor world
> access to limited amounts of the memory.
>
> Is there a reason that not having the shared memory elevated to higher
> contiguity a deal breaker?
Nope. I'm sure someone will ask for it sooner than later, but definitely not a
must have.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-07-16 17:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-06-19 0:05 [PATCH RFC 0/5] mm/gup: Introduce exclusive GUP pinning Elliot Berman
2024-06-19 0:05 ` [PATCH RFC 1/5] mm/gup: Move GUP_PIN_COUNTING_BIAS to page_ref.h Elliot Berman
2024-06-19 0:05 ` [PATCH RFC 2/5] mm/gup: Add an option for obtaining an exclusive pin Elliot Berman
2024-06-19 22:40 ` kernel test robot
2024-06-19 0:05 ` [PATCH RFC 3/5] mm/gup: Add support for re-pinning a normal pinned page as exclusive Elliot Berman
2024-06-19 0:05 ` [PATCH RFC 4/5] mm/gup-test: Verify exclusive pinned Elliot Berman
2024-06-19 0:05 ` [PATCH RFC 5/5] mm/gup_test: Verify GUP grabs same pages twice Elliot Berman
2024-06-19 0:11 ` [PATCH RFC 0/5] mm/gup: Introduce exclusive GUP pinning Elliot Berman
2024-06-19 2:44 ` John Hubbard
2024-06-19 7:37 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-06-19 9:11 ` Fuad Tabba
2024-06-19 11:51 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-19 12:01 ` Fuad Tabba
2024-06-19 12:42 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-20 15:37 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-06-21 8:23 ` Fuad Tabba
2024-06-21 8:43 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-06-21 8:54 ` Fuad Tabba
2024-06-21 9:10 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-06-21 10:16 ` Fuad Tabba
2024-06-21 16:54 ` Elliot Berman
2024-06-24 19:03 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-06-24 21:50 ` David Rientjes
2024-06-26 3:19 ` Vishal Annapurve
2024-06-26 5:20 ` Pankaj Gupta
2024-06-19 12:17 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-06-20 4:11 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-20 8:32 ` Fuad Tabba
2024-06-20 13:55 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-20 14:01 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-06-20 14:29 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-20 14:45 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-06-20 16:04 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-06-20 18:56 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-06-20 16:36 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-20 18:53 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-06-20 20:30 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-06-20 20:47 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-06-20 22:32 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-06-20 23:00 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-20 23:11 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-20 23:54 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-06-21 7:43 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-06-21 12:39 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-20 23:08 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-20 22:47 ` Elliot Berman
2024-06-20 23:18 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-21 7:32 ` Quentin Perret
2024-06-21 8:02 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-06-21 9:25 ` Quentin Perret
2024-06-21 9:37 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-06-21 16:48 ` Elliot Berman
2024-06-21 12:26 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-19 12:16 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-06-20 8:47 ` Fuad Tabba
2024-06-20 9:00 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-06-20 14:01 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-20 13:08 ` Mostafa Saleh
2024-06-20 14:14 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-06-20 14:34 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-02 8:26 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-08-02 11:22 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-05 2:24 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-08-05 23:22 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-06 0:50 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-06-20 16:33 ` Mostafa Saleh
2024-07-12 23:29 ` Ackerley Tng
2024-07-16 16:03 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-07-16 16:08 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-16 17:34 ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2024-07-16 20:11 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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