From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
Barry Song <v-songbaohua@oppo.com>,
Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
Lorenzo Stoakes <lstoakes@gmail.com>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
Hyeonggon Yoo <42.hyeyoo@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] mm: warn potential return NULL for kmalloc_array and kvmalloc_array with __GFP_NOFAIL
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2024 09:12:37 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZpjAZW1DokqxyuHW@tiehlicka> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Zpi-lvxQ7O6lLJhX@infradead.org>
On Thu 18-07-24 00:04:54, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 18, 2024 at 08:58:44AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > WARN_ON is effectively BUG_ON with panic_on_warn so if this happens to
> > be in a user triggerable path then you would have an easy way to panic
> > the whole machine. It is likely true that the kernel could oops just
> > right after the failure but that could be recoverable at least.
>
> If you set panic_on_warn you are either debugging in which case it's
> the right thing, or you are fucked. So don't do it unless you
> expet frequent crashes.
I do agree and I wouldn't recommend running panic_on_warn on anything
even touching production setups. Reality check disagrees.
> > If anything I would just pr_warn with caller address or add dump_stack
> > to capture the full trace. That would give us the caller that needs
> > fixing without panicing the system with panic_on_warn.
>
> The whole freaking point of __GFP_NOFAIL is that callers don't handle
> allocation failures. So in fact a straight BUG is the right thing
> here.
OOPs from the NULL ptr could be just a safer option bacause it could be
recoverable.
Anyway, I am questioning that WARN/BUG/pr_warn on overflow check is
adding any actual value because GFP_NOFAIL large allocations could be
even more dangerous essentially rendering the system completely
unsuabale.
--
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-07-18 7:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-07-17 23:00 [PATCH RFC] mm: warn potential return NULL for kmalloc_array and kvmalloc_array with __GFP_NOFAIL Barry Song
2024-07-18 6:58 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-18 7:04 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-18 7:12 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2024-07-18 8:16 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-07-18 7:22 ` Barry Song
2024-07-18 7:27 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-18 7:41 ` Barry Song
2024-07-18 7:53 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-18 8:18 ` Barry Song
2024-07-18 8:32 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-18 8:43 ` Barry Song
2024-07-18 8:50 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-19 0:35 ` Barry Song
2024-07-19 7:02 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-19 7:07 ` Barry Song
2024-07-19 7:42 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-19 7:51 ` Barry Song
2024-07-19 8:01 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-19 8:28 ` Barry Song
2024-07-19 8:40 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-19 9:36 ` Barry Song
2024-07-19 9:45 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-19 9:58 ` Barry Song
2024-07-19 10:57 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-19 11:05 ` Barry Song
2024-07-19 11:19 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-19 8:50 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-07-19 9:33 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-19 10:10 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-07-19 10:52 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-19 11:13 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-07-19 11:26 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-19 13:02 ` Barry Song
2024-07-19 13:30 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-20 0:36 ` Barry Song
2024-07-22 7:23 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-22 7:34 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-07-19 7:37 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-19 7:43 ` Barry Song
2024-07-19 7:53 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-20 22:14 ` Barry Song
2024-07-22 7:26 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-22 8:09 ` Barry Song
2024-07-22 9:01 ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-22 23:18 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-22 23:22 ` Barry Song
2024-07-19 8:35 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-07-18 7:48 ` Hailong Liu
2024-07-18 8:33 ` Barry Song
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