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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>
Cc: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	42.hyeyoo@gmail.com, cl@linux.com, hailong.liu@oppo.com,
	hch@infradead.org, iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com, penberg@kernel.org,
	rientjes@google.com, roman.gushchin@linux.dev,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, urezki@gmail.com,
	v-songbaohua@oppo.com, virtualization@lists.linux.dev,
	Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>,
	lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 4/4] mm: prohibit NULL deference exposed for unsupported non-blockable __GFP_NOFAIL
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2024 13:31:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zqogdaq1yLowIb2u@tiehlicka> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGsJ_4xnRCMAQLPb5XAYPL3NHA7K4firyWL_yseT+-a8Kz5OZw@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed 31-07-24 19:08:44, Barry Song wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 31, 2024 at 6:55 PM Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz> wrote:
> >
> > On 7/31/24 2:01 AM, Barry Song wrote:
> > > From: Barry Song <v-songbaohua@oppo.com>
> > >
> > > When users allocate memory with the __GFP_NOFAIL flag, they might
> > > incorrectly use it alongside GFP_ATOMIC, GFP_NOWAIT, etc. This kind
> > > of non-blockable __GFP_NOFAIL is not supported and is pointless. If
> > > we attempt and still fail to allocate memory for these users, we have
> > > two choices:
> > >
> > >     1. We could busy-loop and hope that some other direct reclamation or
> > >     kswapd rescues the current process. However, this is unreliable
> > >     and could ultimately lead to hard or soft lockups, which might not
> > >     be well supported by some architectures.
> > >
> > >     2. We could use BUG_ON to trigger a reliable system crash, avoiding
> > >     exposing NULL dereference.
> > >
> > > This patch chooses the second option because the first is unreliable. Even
> > > if the process incorrectly using __GFP_NOFAIL is sometimes rescued, the
> > > long latency might be unacceptable, especially considering that misusing
> > > GFP_ATOMIC and __GFP_NOFAIL is likely to occur in atomic contexts with
> > > strict timing requirements.
> > >
> > > Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
> > > Cc: Uladzislau Rezki (Sony) <urezki@gmail.com>
> > > Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
> > > Cc: Lorenzo Stoakes <lstoakes@gmail.com>
> > > Cc: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>
> > > Cc: Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>
> > > Cc: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
> > > Cc: Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>
> > > Cc: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
> > > Cc: Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>
> > > Cc: Hyeonggon Yoo <42.hyeyoo@gmail.com>
> > > Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
> > > Cc: Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>
> > > Signed-off-by: Barry Song <v-songbaohua@oppo.com>
> > > ---
> > >  mm/page_alloc.c | 10 +++++-----
> > >  1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/mm/page_alloc.c b/mm/page_alloc.c
> > > index cc179c3e68df..ed1bd8f595bd 100644
> > > --- a/mm/page_alloc.c
> > > +++ b/mm/page_alloc.c
> > > @@ -4439,11 +4439,11 @@ __alloc_pages_slowpath(gfp_t gfp_mask, unsigned int order,
> > >        */
> > >       if (gfp_mask & __GFP_NOFAIL) {
> > >               /*
> > > -              * All existing users of the __GFP_NOFAIL are blockable, so warn
> > > -              * of any new users that actually require GFP_NOWAIT
> > > +              * All existing users of the __GFP_NOFAIL are blockable
> > > +              * otherwise we introduce a busy loop with inside the page
> > > +              * allocator from non-sleepable contexts
> > >                */
> > > -             if (WARN_ON_ONCE_GFP(!can_direct_reclaim, gfp_mask))
> > > -                     goto fail;
> > > +             BUG_ON(!can_direct_reclaim);
> >
> > We might get more useful output if here we did just "if
> > (!can_direct_reclaim) goto fail; and let warn_alloc() print it, and then
> > there would be a BUG_ON(gfp_mask & __GFP_NOFAIL)?
> > Additionally we could mask out __GFP_NOWARN from gfp_mask before the goto,
> > as a __GFP_NOWARN would suppress the output in a non-recoverable situation
> > so it would be wrong.
> 
> If we use BUG_ON, it seems like we don't need to do anything else, as the BUG_ON
> report gives developers all the information they need.

It will not give warn_alloc - aka state of the page allocator at the
time of failure. Is this really necessary? I don't know because it is
"shouldn't ever happen" rather than "how come this allocation has
failed" case.

So IMHO a simple BUG_ON should be sufficient to scream out loud that
impossible has happened and need fixing.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

      reply	other threads:[~2024-07-31 11:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-31  0:01 [PATCH v2 0/4] mm: clarify nofail memory allocation Barry Song
2024-07-31  0:01 ` [PATCH RFT v2 1/4] vpda: try to fix the potential crash due to misusing __GFP_NOFAIL Barry Song
2024-07-31  3:09   ` Jason Wang
2024-07-31  3:15     ` Barry Song
2024-07-31  3:58       ` Jason Wang
2024-07-31  4:11         ` Barry Song
2024-07-31  4:13           ` Jason Wang
2024-07-31  5:05             ` Barry Song
2024-07-31 10:20               ` Tetsuo Handa
2024-08-01  2:37                 ` Jason Wang
2024-08-05  1:32                   ` Barry Song
2024-08-05  8:19                     ` Jason Wang
2024-08-01  2:30               ` Jason Wang
2024-07-31  0:01 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] mm: Document __GFP_NOFAIL must be blockable Barry Song
2024-07-31 10:18   ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-07-31 16:26   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-31  0:01 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] mm: BUG_ON to avoid NULL deference while __GFP_NOFAIL fails Barry Song
2024-07-31  7:11   ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-31 10:29   ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-07-31 10:44     ` Tetsuo Handa
2024-07-31 10:48       ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-07-31 10:57         ` Barry Song
2024-07-31 16:28   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-31  0:01 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] mm: prohibit NULL deference exposed for unsupported non-blockable __GFP_NOFAIL Barry Song
2024-07-31  7:15   ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-31 10:55   ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-07-31 11:08     ` Barry Song
2024-07-31 11:31       ` Michal Hocko [this message]

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