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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	 Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev>,
	Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>, Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	 James Houghton <jthoughton@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 19/22] KVM: x86/mmu: Add infrastructure to allow walking rmaps outside of mmu_lock
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2024 08:19:20 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zrt5eNArfQA7x1qj@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJhGHyDa+-ehMOeLGhZ9-y-ubB4fSXG83hBGUWMRmBOtJ-wSLg@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Aug 13, 2024, Lai Jiangshan wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 12, 2024 at 11:22 PM Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com> wrote:
> 
> >
> > Oh yeah, duh, re-read after PAUSE, not before.
> >
> > Definitely holler if you have any alternative ideas for walking rmaps
> > without taking mmu_lock, I guarantee you've spent more time than me
> > thinking about the shadow MMU :-)
> 
> We use the same bit and the same way for the rmap lock.
> 
> We just use bit_spin_lock() and the optimization for empty rmap_head is
> handled out of kvm_rmap_lock().

Hmm, I'm leaning towards keeping the custom locking.  There are a handful of
benefits, none of which are all that meaningful on their own, but do add up.

 - Callers don't need to manually check for an empty rmap_head.
 - Can avoid the redundant preempt_{disable,enable}() entirely in the common case
   of being called while mmu_lock is held.
 - Handles the (likely super rare) edge case where a read-only walker encounters
   an rmap that was just emptied (rmap_head->val goes to zero after the initial
   check to elide the lock).
 - Avoids an atomic when releasing the lock, and any extra instructions entirely
   for writers since they always write the full rmap_head->val when releasing.

> bit_spin_lock() has the most-needed preempt_disable(). I'm not sure if the
> new kvm_rmap_age_gfn_range_lockless() is called in a preempt disabled region.

Oof, it doesn't.  Disabling IRQs crossed my mind, but I completely forgot about
preemption.

Thanks much!

  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-13 15:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-09 19:43 [PATCH 00/22] KVM: x86/mmu: Allow yielding on mmu_notifier zap Sean Christopherson
2024-08-09 19:43 ` [PATCH 01/22] KVM: selftests: Check for a potential unhandled exception iff KVM_RUN succeeded Sean Christopherson
2024-08-09 19:43 ` [PATCH 02/22] KVM: selftests: Rename max_guest_memory_test to mmu_stress_test Sean Christopherson
2024-08-09 19:43 ` [PATCH 03/22] KVM: selftests: Only muck with SREGS on x86 in mmu_stress_test Sean Christopherson
2024-08-09 19:43 ` [PATCH 04/22] KVM: selftests: Compute number of extra pages needed " Sean Christopherson
2024-09-06  0:03   ` James Houghton
2024-09-06  4:42     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-09-06 18:25       ` James Houghton
2024-08-09 19:43 ` [PATCH 05/22] KVM: selftests: Enable mmu_stress_test on arm64 Sean Christopherson
2024-08-09 19:43 ` [PATCH 06/22] KVM: selftests: Use vcpu_arch_put_guest() in mmu_stress_test Sean Christopherson
2024-08-09 19:43 ` [PATCH 07/22] KVM: selftests: Precisely limit the number of guest loops " Sean Christopherson
2024-08-09 19:43 ` [PATCH 08/22] KVM: selftests: Add a read-only mprotect() phase to mmu_stress_test Sean Christopherson
2024-08-09 19:43 ` [PATCH 09/22] KVM: selftests: Verify KVM correctly handles mprotect(PROT_READ) Sean Christopherson
     [not found]   ` <CADrL8HXcD--jn1iLeCJycCd3Btv4_rBPxz6NMnTREXfeh0vRZA@mail.gmail.com>
2024-09-07  0:53     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-09-07  2:26       ` James Houghton
2024-09-09 15:49         ` Sean Christopherson
2024-08-09 19:43 ` [PATCH 10/22] KVM: x86/mmu: Move walk_slot_rmaps() up near for_each_slot_rmap_range() Sean Christopherson
2024-08-28 18:20   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-08-09 19:43 ` [PATCH 11/22] KVM: x86/mmu: Plumb a @can_yield parameter into __walk_slot_rmaps() Sean Christopherson
2024-08-09 19:43 ` [PATCH 12/22] KVM: x86/mmu: Add a helper to walk and zap rmaps for a memslot Sean Christopherson
2024-08-09 19:43 ` [PATCH 13/22] KVM: x86/mmu: Honor NEED_RESCHED when zapping rmaps and blocking is allowed Sean Christopherson
2024-08-09 19:43 ` [PATCH 14/22] KVM: x86/mmu: Morph kvm_handle_gfn_range() into an aging specific helper Sean Christopherson
2024-08-12 21:53   ` David Matlack
2024-08-12 21:58     ` David Matlack
2024-08-09 19:43 ` [PATCH 15/22] KVM: x86/mmu: Fold mmu_spte_age() into kvm_rmap_age_gfn_range() Sean Christopherson
2024-08-09 19:43 ` [PATCH 16/22] KVM: x86/mmu: Add KVM_RMAP_MANY to replace open coded '1' and '1ul' literals Sean Christopherson
2024-08-09 19:43 ` [PATCH 17/22] KVM: x86/mmu: Refactor low level rmap helpers to prep for walking w/o mmu_lock Sean Christopherson
2024-08-09 19:43 ` [PATCH 18/22] KVM: x86/mmu: Use KVM_PAGES_PER_HPAGE() instead of an open coded equivalent Sean Christopherson
2024-08-09 19:43 ` [PATCH 19/22] KVM: x86/mmu: Add infrastructure to allow walking rmaps outside of mmu_lock Sean Christopherson
2024-08-12  8:39   ` Lai Jiangshan
2024-08-12 15:22     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-08-13  6:35       ` Lai Jiangshan
2024-08-13 15:19         ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2024-09-03 20:17   ` James Houghton
2024-09-03 21:27     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-09-03 21:40       ` James Houghton
2024-09-09 19:00   ` James Houghton
2024-09-09 20:02     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-09-09 20:46       ` James Houghton
2024-09-09 22:02         ` Sean Christopherson
2024-09-10  0:28           ` James Houghton
2024-09-10  1:42             ` Sean Christopherson
2024-09-10 21:11               ` James Houghton
2024-09-11 15:33                 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-08-09 19:43 ` [PATCH 20/22] KVM: x86/mmu: Add support for lockless walks of rmap SPTEs Sean Christopherson
2024-08-09 19:43 ` [PATCH 21/22] KVM: x86/mmu: Support rmap walks without holding mmu_lock when aging gfns Sean Christopherson
2024-09-03 20:36   ` James Houghton
2024-09-04 15:48     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-08-09 19:43 ` [PATCH 22/22] ***HACK*** KVM: x86: Don't take " Sean Christopherson
2024-09-10  4:56 ` [PATCH 00/22] KVM: x86/mmu: Allow yielding on mmu_notifier zap Sean Christopherson

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