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From: Chao Gao <chao.gao@intel.com>
To: Rick Edgecombe <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>
Cc: <seanjc@google.com>, <pbonzini@redhat.com>, <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	<kai.huang@intel.com>, <isaku.yamahata@gmail.com>,
	<tony.lindgren@linux.intel.com>, <xiaoyao.li@intel.com>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 25/25] KVM: x86: Add CPUID bits missing from KVM_GET_SUPPORTED_CPUID
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2024 19:34:20 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZrtEvEh4UJ6ZbPq5@chao-email> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240812224820.34826-26-rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>

On Mon, Aug 12, 2024 at 03:48:20PM -0700, Rick Edgecombe wrote:
>Originally, the plan was to filter the directly configurable CPUID bits
>exposed by KVM_TDX_CAPABILITIES, and the final configured bit values
>provided by KVM_TDX_GET_CPUID. However, several issues were found with
>this. Both the filtering done with KVM_TDX_CAPABILITIES and
>KVM_TDX_GET_CPUID had the issue that the get_supported_cpuid() provided
>default values instead of supported masks for multi-bit fields (i.e. those
>encoding a multi-bit number).
>
>For KVM_TDX_CAPABILITIES, there was also the problem of bits that are
>actually supported by KVM, but missing from get_supported_cpuid() for one
>reason or another. These include X86_FEATURE_MWAIT, X86_FEATURE_HT and
>X86_FEATURE_TSC_DEADLINE_TIMER. This is currently worked around in QEMU by
>adjusting which features are expected. Some of these are going to be added
>to get_supported_cpuid(), and that is probably the right long term fix.
>
>For KVM_TDX_GET_CPUID, there is another problem. Some CPUID bits are fixed
>on by the TDX module, but unsupported by KVM. This means that the TD will
>have them set, but KVM and userspace won't know about them. This class of

What's the problem of having KVM and userspace see some unsupported bits set?

>bits is dealt with by having QEMU expect not to see them. The bits include:
>X86_FEATURE_HYPERVISOR. The proper fix for this specifically is probably to
>change KVM to show it as supported (currently a patch exists). But this
>scenario could be expected in the end of TDX module ever setting and
>default 1, or fixed 1 bits. It would be good to have discussion on whether
>KVM community should mandate that this doesn't happen.

Just my two cents:

Mandating that all fixed-1 bits be supported by KVM would be a burden for both
KVM and the TDX module: the TDX module couldn't add any fixed-1 bits until KVM
supports them, and KVM shouldn't drop any feature that was ever a fixed-1 bit
in any TDX module. I don't think this is a good idea. TDX module support for a
feature will likely be ready earlier than KVM's, as TDX module is smaller and
is developed inside Intel. Requiring the TDX module to avoid adding fixed-1
bits doesn't make much sense, as making all features configurable would
increase its complexity.

I think adding new fixed-1 bits is fine as long as they don't break KVM, i.e.,
KVM shouldn't need to take any action for the new fixed-1 bits, like
saving/restoring more host CPU states across TD-enter/exit or emulating
CPUID/MSR accesses from guests

  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-13 11:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 191+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-12 22:47 [PATCH 00/25] TDX vCPU/VM creation Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-12 22:47 ` [PATCH 01/25] KVM: TDX: Add placeholders for TDX VM/vCPU structures Rick Edgecombe
2024-09-10 16:00   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-08-12 22:47 ` [PATCH 02/25] KVM: TDX: Define TDX architectural definitions Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-29 13:25   ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-08-29 19:46     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-08-30  1:29       ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-08-30  4:45         ` Tony Lindgren
2024-09-10 16:21       ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-10 17:49         ` Sean Christopherson
2024-08-12 22:47 ` [PATCH 03/25] KVM: TDX: Add TDX "architectural" error codes Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-13  6:08   ` Binbin Wu
2024-08-29  5:24     ` Tony Lindgren
2024-08-30  5:52       ` Tony Lindgren
2024-09-10 16:22         ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-11  5:58           ` Tony Lindgren
2024-08-12 22:47 ` [PATCH 04/25] KVM: TDX: Add C wrapper functions for SEAMCALLs to the TDX module Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 05/25] KVM: TDX: Add helper functions to print TDX SEAMCALL error Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-13 16:32   ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-08-13 22:34     ` Huang, Kai
2024-08-14  0:31       ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-08-30  5:56         ` Tony Lindgren
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 06/25] x86/virt/tdx: Export TDX KeyID information Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-30 18:45   ` Dave Hansen
2024-08-30 19:16     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-08-30 21:18       ` Dave Hansen
2024-09-10 16:26         ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 07/25] KVM: TDX: Add helper functions to allocate/free TDX private host key id Rick Edgecombe
2024-09-10 16:27   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-10 16:39     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-09-10 16:42       ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-10 16:43         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 08/25] KVM: TDX: Add place holder for TDX VM specific mem_enc_op ioctl Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-13  6:25   ` Binbin Wu
2024-08-13 16:37   ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-08-30  6:00     ` Tony Lindgren
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 09/25] KVM: TDX: Get system-wide info about TDX module on initialization Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-13  6:47   ` Binbin Wu
2024-08-30  6:59     ` Tony Lindgren
2024-08-14  6:18   ` Binbin Wu
2024-08-21  0:11     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-08-21  6:14       ` Tony Lindgren
2024-08-15  7:59   ` Xu Yilun
2024-08-30  7:21     ` Tony Lindgren
2024-09-02  1:25       ` Xu Yilun
2024-09-02  5:05         ` Tony Lindgren
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 10/25] KVM: TDX: Initialize KVM supported capabilities when module setup Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-13  3:25   ` Chao Gao
2024-08-13  5:26     ` Huang, Kai
2024-08-30  8:44       ` Tony Lindgren
2024-08-13  7:24     ` Binbin Wu
2024-08-14  0:26       ` Chao Gao
2024-08-14  2:36         ` Binbin Wu
2024-08-30  8:34     ` Tony Lindgren
2024-09-10 16:58       ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-11 11:07         ` Tony Lindgren
2024-09-03 16:53     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-08-19  1:33   ` Tao Su
2024-08-29 13:28     ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-08-26 11:04   ` Nikolay Borisov
2024-08-29  4:51     ` Tony Lindgren
2024-09-10 17:15       ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-11 11:04         ` Tony Lindgren
2024-10-10  8:25           ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-10-10  9:49             ` Tony Lindgren
2024-09-04 11:58   ` Nikolay Borisov
2024-09-05 13:36     ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-09-12  8:04       ` Nikolay Borisov
2024-09-12  8:37         ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-09-12  8:43           ` Nikolay Borisov
2024-09-12  9:07             ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-09-12 15:12               ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-09-12 15:18                 ` Nikolay Borisov
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 11/25] KVM: TDX: Report kvm_tdx_caps in KVM_TDX_CAPABILITIES Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-13  3:35   ` Chao Gao
2024-08-19 10:24     ` Nikolay Borisov
2024-08-21  0:06       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 12/25] KVM: TDX: Allow userspace to configure maximum vCPUs for TDX guests Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-19  1:17   ` Tao Su
2024-08-21  0:12     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-08-30  8:53     ` Tony Lindgren
2024-09-30  2:14   ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 13/25] KVM: TDX: create/destroy VM structure Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-14  3:08   ` Yuan Yao
2024-08-21  6:13     ` Tony Lindgren
2024-08-16  7:31   ` Xu Yilun
2024-08-30  9:26     ` Tony Lindgren
2024-08-19 15:09   ` Nikolay Borisov
2024-08-21  0:23     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-08-21  5:39       ` Tony Lindgren
2024-08-21 16:52         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-08-30  9:40           ` Tony Lindgren
2024-09-02  9:22     ` Tony Lindgren
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 14/25] KVM: TDX: initialize VM with TDX specific parameters Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-19 15:35   ` Nikolay Borisov
2024-08-21  0:01     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-08-29  6:27   ` Yan Zhao
2024-09-02 10:31     ` Tony Lindgren
2024-09-05  6:59       ` Yan Zhao
2024-09-05  9:27         ` Tony Lindgren
2024-09-06  4:05           ` Yan Zhao
2024-09-06  4:32             ` Tony Lindgren
2024-09-06 13:52               ` Wang, Wei W
2024-09-03  2:58   ` Chenyi Qiang
2024-09-03  5:44     ` Tony Lindgren
2024-09-03  8:04       ` Chenyi Qiang
2024-09-05  9:31         ` Tony Lindgren
2024-10-01 20:45           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-10-02 23:39   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 15/25] KVM: TDX: Make pmu_intel.c ignore guest TD case Rick Edgecombe
2024-09-10 17:23   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-10-01 10:23     ` Tony Lindgren
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 16/25] KVM: TDX: Don't offline the last cpu of one package when there's TDX guest Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-13  8:37   ` Binbin Wu
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 17/25] KVM: TDX: create/free TDX vcpu structure Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-13  9:15   ` Binbin Wu
2024-09-02 10:50     ` Tony Lindgren
2024-08-19 16:46   ` Nikolay Borisov
2024-08-29  5:00     ` Tony Lindgren
2024-08-29  6:41   ` Yan Zhao
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 18/25] KVM: TDX: Do TDX specific vcpu initialization Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-13  8:00   ` Yuan Yao
2024-08-13 17:21     ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-08-14  1:20       ` Yuan Yao
2024-08-15  0:47         ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-09-03  5:23     ` Tony Lindgren
2024-10-09 15:01     ` Adrian Hunter
2024-10-16 17:42       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-10-18  2:21         ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-10-18 14:20           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-10-21  8:35             ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-10-26  1:12               ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-08-28 14:34   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-09-03  5:34     ` Tony Lindgren
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 19/25] KVM: X86: Introduce kvm_get_supported_cpuid_internal() Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 20/25] KVM: X86: Introduce tdx_get_kvm_supported_cpuid() Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 21/25] KVM: x86: Introduce KVM_TDX_GET_CPUID Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-19  2:59   ` Tao Su
2024-09-03  6:21     ` Tony Lindgren
2024-09-10 17:27       ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-08-19  5:02   ` Xu Yilun
2024-09-03  7:19     ` Tony Lindgren
2024-09-10 17:29       ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-11 11:11         ` Tony Lindgren
2024-08-26 14:09   ` Nikolay Borisov
2024-08-26 17:46     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-08-27 12:19       ` Nikolay Borisov
2024-08-27 20:40         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-09-30  6:26   ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-09-30 16:22     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 22/25] KVM: TDX: Use guest physical address to configure EPT level and GPAW Rick Edgecombe
2024-09-10 17:31   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-10-10  9:13   ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-10-10 10:36     ` Tony Lindgren
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 23/25] KVM: x86/mmu: Taking guest pa into consideration when calculate tdp level Rick Edgecombe
2024-09-10 17:33   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 24/25] KVM: x86: Filter directly configurable TDX CPUID bits Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-19  5:02   ` Xu Yilun
2024-09-03  7:51     ` Tony Lindgren
2024-09-10 17:36   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 25/25] KVM: x86: Add CPUID bits missing from KVM_GET_SUPPORTED_CPUID Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-13 11:34   ` Chao Gao [this message]
2024-08-13 15:14     ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-08-14  0:47       ` Chao Gao
2024-08-14  1:16         ` Sean Christopherson
2024-08-14 10:46           ` Chao Gao
2024-08-14 13:35             ` Sean Christopherson
2024-08-14 17:35               ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-08-14 21:22                 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-08-13 18:45     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-08-14  1:10       ` Sean Christopherson
2024-08-14 11:36       ` Chao Gao
2024-08-14 17:17         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-09-10 17:52   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-12  7:48     ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-09-12 14:09       ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-12 14:45         ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-09-12 14:48           ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-12 15:26             ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-09-12 16:42             ` Sean Christopherson
2024-09-12 18:29               ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-12 18:41                 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-09-13  3:54                   ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-09-12 18:42                 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-09-13  3:57               ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-09-12 15:07         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-09-12 15:37           ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-12 16:38             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-08-15  5:20 ` [PATCH 00/25] TDX vCPU/VM creation Tony Lindgren
2024-08-15 23:46   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-08-16  5:18     ` Tony Lindgren

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