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From: "Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>
To: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
Cc: "xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org" <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	Julien Grall <julien@xen.org>,
	Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Smith <dpsmith@apertussolutions.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] SUPPORT.md: split XSM from Flask
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2024 11:21:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZtgmgL1g_IW2JWUv@macbook.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c648bfe1-6ab0-4429-ab8a-b452ad2359ff@suse.com>

On Wed, Aug 14, 2024 at 09:44:11AM +0200, Jan Beulich wrote:
> XSM is a generic framework, which in particular is also used by SILO.
> With this it can't really be experimental: Arm mandates SILO for having
> a security supported configuration.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>

Reviewed-by: Roger Pau Monné <roger.pau@citrix.com>

> ---
> v3: Add explanations. Another terminology adjustment.
> v2: Terminology adjustments. Stronger description.
> 
> --- a/SUPPORT.md
> +++ b/SUPPORT.md
> @@ -769,13 +769,21 @@ Compile time disabled for ARM by default
>  
>      Status, x86: Supported, not security supported
>  
> -### XSM & FLASK
> +### XSM (Xen Security Module) Framework
> +
> +XSM is a security policy framework.  The dummy implementation is covered by this
> +statement, and implements a policy whereby dom0 is all powerful.  See below for
> +alternative modules (FLASK, SILO).
> +
> +    Status: Supported
> +
> +### FLASK XSM Module
>  
>      Status: Experimental
>  
>  Compile time disabled by default.
>  
> -Also note that using XSM
> +Also note that using FLASK
>  to delegate various domain control hypercalls
>  to particular other domains, rather than only permitting use by dom0,
>  is also specifically excluded from security support for many hypercalls.
> @@ -788,6 +796,13 @@ Please see XSA-77 for more details.
>  The default policy includes FLASK labels and roles for a "typical" Xen-based system
>  with dom0, driver domains, stub domains, domUs, and so on.
>  
> +### SILO XSM Module
> +
> +SILO implements a policy whereby DomU-s can only communicate with Dom0, yet not
> +with each other.

Might be good to clarify SILO is just like the dummy XSM
implementation without allowing inter-domain communication, ie:

"SILO extends the dummy XSM policy by enforcing that DomU-s can only
communicate with Dom0, yet not with each other."

Or similar.

Thanks, Roger.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-09-04  9:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-14  7:44 [PATCH v3] SUPPORT.md: split XSM from Flask Jan Beulich
2024-09-04  8:03 ` Ping: " Jan Beulich
2024-09-04  9:21 ` Roger Pau Monné [this message]
2024-09-04  9:38   ` Jan Beulich
2024-09-04  9:54 ` Daniel P. Smith

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