From: Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>
To: Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
io-uring@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
ming.lei@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH V5 4/8] io_uring: support SQE group
Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2024 17:36:08 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZtweiCfLOJmdeY0Z@fedora> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <36ae357b-bebe-4276-a8db-d6dccf227b61@gmail.com>
On Fri, Sep 06, 2024 at 06:15:32PM +0100, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
> On 8/29/24 05:29, Ming Lei wrote:
> ...
> > > > + if (WARN_ON_ONCE(lead->grp_refs <= 0))
> > > > + return false;
> > > > +
> > > > + req->flags &= ~REQ_F_SQE_GROUP;
> > >
> > > I'm getting completely lost when and why it clears and sets
> > > back REQ_F_SQE_GROUP and REQ_F_SQE_GROUP_LEADER. Is there any
> > > rule?
> >
> > My fault, it should have been documented somewhere.
> >
> > REQ_F_SQE_GROUP is cleared when the request is completed, but it is
> > reused as flag for marking the last request in this group, so we can
> > free the group leader when observing the 'last' member request.
>
> Maybe it'd be cleaner to use a second flag?
I will add one new flag with same value, since the two's lifetime
is non-overlapping.
>
> > The only other difference about the two flags is that both are cleared
> > when the group leader becomes the last one in the group, then
> > this leader degenerates as normal request, which way can simplify
> > group leader freeing.
> >
> > >
> > > > + /*
> > > > + * Set linked leader as failed if any member is failed, so
> > > > + * the remained link chain can be terminated
> > > > + */
> > > > + if (unlikely((req->flags & REQ_F_FAIL) &&
> > > > + ((lead->flags & IO_REQ_LINK_FLAGS) && lead->link)))
> > > > + req_set_fail(lead);
> > >
> > > if (req->flags & REQ_F_FAIL)
> > > req_set_fail(lead);
> > >
> > > REQ_F_FAIL is not specific to links, if a request fails we need
> > > to mark it as such.
> >
> > It is for handling group failure.
> >
> > The following condition
> >
> > ((lead->flags & IO_REQ_LINK_FLAGS) && lead->link))
> >
> > means that this group is in one link-chain.
> >
> > If any member in this group is failed, we need to fail this group(lead),
> > then the remained requests in this chain can be failed.
> >
> > Otherwise, it isn't necessary to fail group leader in case of any member
> > io failure.
>
> What bad would happen if you do it like this?
>
> if (req->flags & REQ_F_FAIL)
> req_set_fail(lead);
>
> I'm asking because if you rely on some particular combination
> of F_FAIL and F_LINK somewhere, it's likely wrong, but otherwise
> we F_FAIL a larger set of requests, which should never be an
> issue.
From dependency relation viewpoint it is not necessary to fail all, but it
makes us easier to start with this more determinate behavior, will
change to this way in V6.
>
> > > > + return !--lead->grp_refs;
> > > > +}
> > > > +
> > > > +static inline bool leader_is_the_last(struct io_kiocb *lead)
> > > > +{
> > > > + return lead->grp_refs == 1 && (lead->flags & REQ_F_SQE_GROUP);
> > > > +}
> > > > +
> > > > +static void io_complete_group_member(struct io_kiocb *req)
> > > > +{
> > > > + struct io_kiocb *lead = get_group_leader(req);
> > > > +
> > > > + if (WARN_ON_ONCE(!(req->flags & REQ_F_SQE_GROUP)))
> > > > + return;
> > > > +
> > > > + /* member CQE needs to be posted first */
> > > > + if (!(req->flags & REQ_F_CQE_SKIP))
> > > > + io_req_commit_cqe(req->ctx, req);
> > > > +
> > > > + if (__io_complete_group_member(req, lead)) {
> > > > + /*
> > > > + * SQE_GROUP flag is kept for the last member, so the leader
> > > > + * can be retrieved & freed from this last member
> > > > + */
> > > > + req->flags |= REQ_F_SQE_GROUP;
> >
> > 'req' is the last completed request, so mark it as the last one
> > by reusing REQ_F_SQE_GROUP, so we can free group leader in
> > io_free_batch_list() when observing the last flag.
> >
> > But it should have been documented.
> >
> > > > + if (!(lead->flags & REQ_F_CQE_SKIP))
> > > > + io_req_commit_cqe(lead->ctx, lead);
> > > > + } else if (leader_is_the_last(lead)) {
> > > > + /* leader will degenerate to plain req if it is the last */
> > > > + lead->flags &= ~(REQ_F_SQE_GROUP | REQ_F_SQE_GROUP_LEADER);
> > >
> > > What's this chunk is about?
> >
> > The leader becomes the only request not completed in group, so it is
> > degenerated as normal one by clearing the two flags. This way simplifies
> > logic for completing group leader.
> >
> ...
> > > > @@ -1388,11 +1501,33 @@ static void io_free_batch_list(struct io_ring_ctx *ctx,
> > > > comp_list);
> > > > if (unlikely(req->flags & IO_REQ_CLEAN_SLOW_FLAGS)) {
> > > > + if (req->flags & (REQ_F_SQE_GROUP |
> > > > + REQ_F_SQE_GROUP_LEADER)) {
> > > > + struct io_kiocb *leader;
> > > > +
> > > > + /* Leader is freed via the last member */
> > > > + if (req_is_group_leader(req)) {
> > > > + node = req->comp_list.next;
> > > > + continue;
> > > > + }
> > > > +
> > > > + /*
> > > > + * Only the last member keeps GROUP flag,
> > > > + * free leader and this member together
> > > > + */
> > > > + leader = get_group_leader(req);
> > > > + leader->flags &= ~REQ_F_SQE_GROUP_LEADER;
> > > > + req->flags &= ~REQ_F_SQE_GROUP;
> > > > + wq_stack_add_head(&leader->comp_list,
> > > > + &req->comp_list);
> > >
> > > That's quite hacky, but at least we can replace it with
> > > task work if it gets in the way later on.
> >
> > io_free_batch_list() is already called in task context, and it isn't
> > necessary to schedule one extra tw, which hurts perf more or less.
> >
> > Another way is to store these leaders into one temp list, and
> > call io_free_batch_list() for this temp list one more time.
>
> What I'm saying, it's fine to leave it as is for now. In the
> future if it becomes a problem for ome reason or another, we can
> do it the task_work like way.
OK, got it, I will leave it as is, and document the potential risk
with future changes.
>
> ...
> > > > @@ -2101,6 +2251,62 @@ static int io_init_req(struct io_ring_ctx *ctx, struct io_kiocb *req,
> > > > return def->prep(req, sqe);
> > > > }
> > > > +static struct io_kiocb *io_group_sqe(struct io_submit_link *group,
> > > > + struct io_kiocb *req)
> > > > +{
> > > > + /*
> > > > + * Group chain is similar with link chain: starts with 1st sqe with
> > > > + * REQ_F_SQE_GROUP, and ends with the 1st sqe without REQ_F_SQE_GROUP
> > > > + */
> > > > + if (group->head) {
> > > > + struct io_kiocb *lead = group->head;
> > > > +
> > > > + /* members can't be in link chain, can't be drained */
> > > > + if (req->flags & (IO_REQ_LINK_FLAGS | REQ_F_IO_DRAIN))
> > > > + req_fail_link_node(lead, -EINVAL);
> > >
> > > That should fail the entire link (if any) as well.
> >
> > Good catch, here we should fail link head by following the logic
> > in io_submit_fail_init().
> >
> > >
> > > I have even more doubts we even want to mix links and groups. Apart
> >
> > Wrt. ublk, group provides zero copy, and the ublk io(group) is generic
> > IO, sometime IO_LINK is really needed & helpful, such as in ublk-nbd,
> > send(tcp) requests need to be linked & zc. And we shouldn't limit IO_LINK
> > for generic io_uring IO.
> >
> > > from nuances as such, which would be quite hard to track, the semantics
> > > of IOSQE_CQE_SKIP_SUCCESS is unclear.
> >
> > IO group just follows every normal request.
>
> It tries to mimic but groups don't and essentially can't do it the
> same way, at least in some aspects. E.g. IOSQE_CQE_SKIP_SUCCESS
> usually means that all following will be silenced. What if a
> member is CQE_SKIP, should it stop the leader from posting a CQE?
> And whatever the answer is, it'll be different from the link's
> behaviour.
Here it looks easier than link's:
- only leader's IOSQE_CQE_SKIP_SUCCESS follows linked request's rule
- all members just respects the flag for its own, and not related with
leader's
>
> Regardless, let's forbid IOSQE_CQE_SKIP_SUCCESS and linked timeouts
> for groups, that can be discussed afterwards.
It should easy to forbid IOSQE_CQE_SKIP_SUCCESS which is per-sqe, will do
it in V6.
I am not sure if it is easy to disallow IORING_OP_LINK_TIMEOUT, which
covers all linked sqes, and group leader could be just one of them.
Can you share any idea about the implementation to forbid LINK_TIMEOUT
for sqe group?
>
> > 1) fail in linked chain
> > - follows IO_LINK's behavior since io_fail_links() covers io group
> >
> > 2) otherwise
> > - just respect IOSQE_CQE_SKIP_SUCCESS
> >
> > > And also it doen't work with IORING_OP_LINK_TIMEOUT.
> >
> > REQ_F_LINK_TIMEOUT can work on whole group(or group leader) only, and I
> > will document it in V6.
>
> It would still be troublesome. When a linked timeout fires it searches
> for the request it's attached to and cancels it, however, group leaders
> that queued up their members are discoverable. But let's say you can find
> them in some way, then the only sensbile thing to do is cancel members,
> which should be doable by checking req->grp_leader, but might be easier
> to leave it to follow up patches.
We have changed sqe group to start queuing members after leader is
completed. link timeout will cancel leader with all its members via
leader->grp_link, this behavior should respect IORING_OP_LINK_TIMEOUT
completely.
Please see io_fail_links() and io_cancel_group_members().
>
>
> > > > +
> > > > + lead->grp_refs += 1;
> > > > + group->last->grp_link = req;
> > > > + group->last = req;
> > > > +
> > > > + if (req->flags & REQ_F_SQE_GROUP)
> > > > + return NULL;
> > > > +
> > > > + req->grp_link = NULL;
> > > > + req->flags |= REQ_F_SQE_GROUP;
> > > > + group->head = NULL;
> > > > + if (lead->flags & REQ_F_FAIL) {
> > > > + io_queue_sqe_fallback(lead);
> > >
> > > Let's say the group was in the middle of a link, it'll
> > > complete that group and continue with assembling / executing
> > > the link when it should've failed it and honoured the
> > > request order.
> >
> > OK, here we can simply remove the above two lines, and link submit
> > state can handle this failure in link chain.
>
> If you just delete then nobody would check for REQ_F_FAIL and
> fail the request.
io_link_assembling() & io_link_sqe() checks for REQ_F_FAIL and call
io_queue_sqe_fallback() either if it is in link chain or
not.
> Assuming you'd also set the fail flag to the
> link head when appropriate, how about deleting these two line
> and do like below? (can be further prettified)
>
>
> bool io_group_assembling()
> {
> return state->group.head || (req->flags & REQ_F_SQE_GROUP);
> }
> bool io_link_assembling()
> {
> return state->link.head || (req->flags & IO_REQ_LINK_FLAGS);
> }
>
> static inline int io_submit_sqe()
> {
> ...
> if (unlikely(io_link_assembling(state, req) ||
> io_group_assembling(state, req) ||
> req->flags & REQ_F_FAIL)) {
> if (io_group_assembling(state, req)) {
> req = io_group_sqe(&state->group, req);
> if (!req)
> return 0;
> }
> if (io_link_assembling(state, req)) {
> req = io_link_sqe(&state->link, req);
> if (!req)
> return 0;
> }
> if (req->flags & REQ_F_FAIL) {
> io_queue_sqe_fallback(req);
> return 0;
As I mentioned above, io_link_assembling() & io_link_sqe() covers
the failure handling.
thanks,
Ming
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-09-07 9:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-08-08 16:24 [PATCH V5 0/8] io_uring: support sqe group and provide group kbuf Ming Lei
2024-08-08 16:24 ` [PATCH V5 1/8] io_uring: add io_link_req() helper Ming Lei
2024-08-08 16:24 ` [PATCH V5 2/8] io_uring: add io_submit_fail_link() helper Ming Lei
2024-08-08 16:24 ` [PATCH V5 3/8] io_uring: add helper of io_req_commit_cqe() Ming Lei
2024-08-08 16:24 ` [PATCH V5 4/8] io_uring: support SQE group Ming Lei
2024-08-27 15:18 ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-08-29 4:29 ` Ming Lei
2024-09-06 17:15 ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-09-07 9:36 ` Ming Lei [this message]
2024-09-10 13:12 ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-09-10 15:04 ` Ming Lei
2024-09-10 20:31 ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-09-11 1:28 ` Ming Lei
2024-08-08 16:24 ` [PATCH V5 5/8] io_uring: support sqe group with members depending on leader Ming Lei
2024-08-08 16:24 ` [PATCH V5 6/8] io_uring: support providing sqe group buffer Ming Lei
2024-08-08 16:24 ` [PATCH V5 7/8] io_uring/uring_cmd: support provide group kernel buffer Ming Lei
2024-08-08 16:24 ` [PATCH V5 8/8] ublk: support provide io buffer Ming Lei
2024-08-17 4:16 ` [PATCH V5 0/8] io_uring: support sqe group and provide group kbuf Ming Lei
2024-08-17 19:48 ` Pavel Begunkov
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=ZtweiCfLOJmdeY0Z@fedora \
--to=ming.lei@redhat.com \
--cc=asml.silence@gmail.com \
--cc=axboe@kernel.dk \
--cc=io-uring@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=kwolf@redhat.com \
--cc=linux-block@vger.kernel.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.