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From: Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>
To: Damien Le Moal <dlemoal@kernel.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	"Richard W . M . Jones" <rjones@redhat.com>,
	Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>,
	Jiri Jaburek <jjaburek@redhat.com>,
	Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>,
	Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>,
	Chaitanya Kulkarni <kch@nvidia.com>,
	Shin'ichiro Kawasaki <shinichiro.kawasaki@wdc.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] block: Fix elv_iosched_local_module handling of "none" scheduler
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2024 21:02:36 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zul97FvBsVuC1_h3@fedora> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5ff26f49-dea6-4667-ae90-7b61908f67cf@kernel.org>

On Tue, Sep 17, 2024 at 02:48:06PM +0200, Damien Le Moal wrote:
> On 2024/09/17 14:33, Ming Lei wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 17, 2024 at 1:53 PM Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tue, Sep 17, 2024 at 02:32:58PM +0900, Damien Le Moal wrote:
> >>> Commit 734e1a860312 ("block: Prevent deadlocks when switching
> >>> elevators") introduced the function elv_iosched_load_module() to allow
> >>> loading an elevator module outside of elv_iosched_store() with the
> >>> target device queue not frozen, to avoid deadlocks. However, the "none"
> >>> scheduler does not have a module and as a result,
> >>> elv_iosched_load_module() always returns an error when trying to switch
> >>> to this valid scheduler.
> >>>
> >>> Fix this by checking that the requested scheduler is "none" and doing
> >>> nothing in that case.
> >>
> >> The old code before this commit simply ignored the request_module,
> >> just as most callers of it do.  I think that's the right approach
> >> here as well.
> > 
> > freeze queue is actually easy to cause deadlock, and old code is to not
> > do it everywhere.
> > 
> > Probably it may be more reliable to replace 'load_module' with 'no_freeze',
> > and not to freeze queue in case that 'no_freeze' is set in queue_attr_store().
> 
> load_module or whatever the name you prefer, should NOT imply that freezing the
> queue is not necessary. Switching the IO scheduler is really one such case.
> Switching the scheduler really needs to be done with the queue frozen, but the
> scheduler module loading needs to be done with the queue live.

Here 'no_freeze' means that automatic 'freeze queue' isn't needed, or
it can be named as 'no_auto_freeze'.

Again, 'load_module' is one bad name from interface viewpoint, which is just
needed by 'scheduler' only.

> 
> > queue_wb_lat_store() need no_freeze too since there is GFP_KERNEL
> > allocation involved.
> 
> No, because again the attribute may need to have the queue frozen to correctly
> be changed. To avoid hangs, what is needed is to force a GFP_NOIO context before
> calling the attribute ->store() operation. Doing so, any memory allocation that
> the attribute change may need will not cause re-entry into a frozen queue (which
> would result in a hang).
> 
> This is easy to do with memalloc_noio_save()/memalloc_noio_restore().

But why do we need that? Just for paper over the problem caused by the
unnecessary freeze queue?


Thanks,
Ming


  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-17 13:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-17  5:32 [PATCH] block: Fix elv_iosched_local_module handling of "none" scheduler Damien Le Moal
2024-09-17  5:53 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-09-17 12:33   ` Ming Lei
2024-09-17 12:48     ` Damien Le Moal
2024-09-17 13:02       ` Ming Lei [this message]
2024-09-17 13:05         ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-09-17 13:11           ` Jens Axboe
2024-09-17 13:14             ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-09-17 13:17               ` Jens Axboe
2024-09-17 13:18               ` Damien Le Moal
2024-09-17 13:19                 ` Jens Axboe
2024-09-17 11:55 ` Shinichiro Kawasaki

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