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From: Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com>
To: Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Jeff King <peff@peff.net>,
	"brian m. carlson" <sandals@crustytoothpaste.net>,
	Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>,
	Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/8] hash.h: support choosing a separate SHA-1 for non-cryptographic uses
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2024 13:22:03 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZvRGtnVVo0if3PH0@nand.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABPp-BEqWhSVSEArOu_45Bt8W0d8PWThSbWrYAEWKrcMsDGsHw@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at 09:58:47AM -0700, Elijah Newren wrote:
> >          Co-authored-by: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
> >          Signed-off-by: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
>
> I don't even get a Helped-by for finding the cause of the pile-up of
> temporary object files and the suggested tweak to this patch?  ;-)

Oops, that is definitely an oversight. I'll add your Helped-by to the
next version (though it really should probably be a
My-bacon-was-saved-by trailer ;-)).

> >  9:  4018261366f !  8:  4b83dd05e9f csum-file.c: use fast SHA-1 implementation when available
> >     @@ Metadata
> >      Author: Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com>
> >
> >       ## Commit message ##
> >     -    csum-file.c: use fast SHA-1 implementation when available
> >     +    csum-file.c: use unsafe SHA-1 implementation when available
> >
> >     -    Update hashwrite() and friends to use the fast_-variants of hashing
> >     -    functions, calling for e.g., "the_hash_algo->fast_update_fn()" instead
> >     +    Update hashwrite() and friends to use the unsafe_-variants of hashing
> >     +    functions, calling for e.g., "the_hash_algo->unsafe_update_fn()" instead
> >          of "the_hash_algo->update_fn()".
> >
> >          These callers only use the_hash_algo to produce a checksum, which we
> >          depend on for data integrity, but not for cryptographic purposes, so
> >     -    these callers are safe to use the fast (and potentially non-collision
> >     +    these callers are safe to use the unsafe (and potentially non-collision
> >          detecting) SHA-1 implementation.
>
> Is the "and potentially non-collision detecting" parenthetical comment
> still needed now that it's referred to as unsafe?  Even if we keep
> most of it, maybe we should drop the "and"?

Yeah, I think that's a good idea. Without specifying any of the new
build knobs, the "unsafe" function pointers are identical to the safe
ones, which is why I wrote "potentially" here. But I think that's a
semantic argument that is confusing at best and misleading at worst, so
I like your suggestion to make the parenthetical just read
"(non-collision detecting)".

> >     @@ Commit message
> >          , and the resulting "clone" takes 19.219 seconds of wall clock time,
> >          18.94 seconds of user time and 0.28 seconds of system time.
> >
> >     -    Compiling with OPENSSL_SHA1_FAST=1, we spend ~60% fewer instructions in
> >     -    hashwrite():
> >     +    Compiling with OPENSSL_SHA1_UNSAFE=1, we spend ~60% fewer instructions
> >     +    in hashwrite():
> >
> >              $ callgrind_annotate --inclusive=yes | grep hashwrite | head -n1
> >               59,164,001,176 (58.79%)  /home/ttaylorr/src/git/csum-file.c:hashwrite [/home/ttaylorr/src/git/git-pack-objects]
> >
> >     -    , and generate the resulting "clone" much faster, in only 11.597 seconds
> >     +    , and generate the resulting "clone" much unsafeer, in only 11.597 seconds
>
> This fast->unsafe translation isn't so good; this one should be undone.

Oops. Great catch, thanks.

Thanks,
Taylor

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-09-25 17:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-01 16:03 [PATCH 0/4] hash.h: support choosing a separate SHA-1 for non-cryptographic uses Taylor Blau
2024-09-01 16:03 ` [PATCH 1/4] sha1: do not redefine `platform_SHA_CTX` and friends Taylor Blau
2024-09-02 13:41   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-09-03 19:34     ` Taylor Blau
2024-09-01 16:03 ` [PATCH 2/4] hash.h: scaffolding for _fast hashing variants Taylor Blau
2024-09-02 13:41   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-09-03 17:27     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-09-03 19:52       ` Taylor Blau
2024-09-03 20:47         ` Junio C Hamano
2024-09-03 21:24           ` Taylor Blau
2024-09-04  7:05           ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-09-04 14:53             ` Junio C Hamano
2024-09-03 19:40     ` Taylor Blau
2024-09-01 16:03 ` [PATCH 3/4] Makefile: allow specifying a SHA-1 for non-cryptographic uses Taylor Blau
2024-09-02 13:41   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-09-03 19:43     ` Taylor Blau
2024-09-01 16:03 ` [PATCH 4/4] csum-file.c: use fast SHA-1 implementation when available Taylor Blau
2024-09-02 13:41   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-09-03  1:22     ` brian m. carlson
2024-09-03 19:50     ` Taylor Blau
2024-09-02  3:41 ` [PATCH 0/4] hash.h: support choosing a separate SHA-1 for non-cryptographic uses Junio C Hamano
2024-09-03 19:48   ` Taylor Blau
2024-09-03 20:44     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-09-02 14:08 ` brian m. carlson
2024-09-03 19:47   ` Taylor Blau
2024-09-03 22:41     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-09-04 14:01     ` brian m. carlson
2024-09-05 10:37     ` Jeff King
2024-09-05 15:41       ` Junio C Hamano
2024-09-05 16:23         ` Taylor Blau
2024-09-05 16:51           ` Junio C Hamano
2024-09-05 17:04             ` Taylor Blau
2024-09-05 17:51               ` Taylor Blau
2024-09-05 20:21                 ` Taylor Blau
2024-09-05 20:27               ` Jeff King
2024-09-05 21:27                 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-09-05 15:11 ` [PATCH v2 " Taylor Blau
2024-09-05 15:12   ` [PATCH v2 1/4] sha1: do not redefine `platform_SHA_CTX` and friends Taylor Blau
2024-09-05 15:12   ` [PATCH v2 2/4] hash.h: scaffolding for _fast hashing variants Taylor Blau
2024-09-05 15:12   ` [PATCH v2 3/4] Makefile: allow specifying a SHA-1 for non-cryptographic uses Taylor Blau
2024-09-05 15:12   ` [PATCH v2 4/4] csum-file.c: use fast SHA-1 implementation when available Taylor Blau
2024-09-06 19:46 ` [PATCH v3 0/9] hash.h: support choosing a separate SHA-1 for non-cryptographic uses Taylor Blau
2024-09-06 19:46   ` [PATCH v3 1/9] finalize_object_file(): check for name collision before renaming Taylor Blau
2024-09-06 19:46   ` [PATCH v3 2/9] finalize_object_file(): refactor unlink_or_warn() placement Taylor Blau
2024-09-06 19:46   ` [PATCH v3 3/9] finalize_object_file(): implement collision check Taylor Blau
2024-09-06 21:44     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-09-06 21:51       ` Chris Torek
2024-09-10  6:53       ` Jeff King
2024-09-10 15:14         ` Junio C Hamano
2024-09-16 10:45     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-09-16 15:54       ` Taylor Blau
2024-09-16 16:03         ` Taylor Blau
2024-09-17 20:40       ` Junio C Hamano
2024-09-06 19:46   ` [PATCH v3 4/9] pack-objects: use finalize_object_file() to rename pack/idx/etc Taylor Blau
2024-09-06 19:46   ` [PATCH v3 5/9] i5500-git-daemon.sh: use compile-able version of Git without OpenSSL Taylor Blau
2024-09-11  6:10     ` Jeff King
2024-09-11  6:12       ` Jeff King
2024-09-12 20:28         ` Junio C Hamano
2024-09-11 15:28       ` Junio C Hamano
2024-09-11 21:23         ` Jeff King
2024-09-06 19:46   ` [PATCH v3 6/9] sha1: do not redefine `platform_SHA_CTX` and friends Taylor Blau
2024-09-06 19:46   ` [PATCH v3 7/9] hash.h: scaffolding for _fast hashing variants Taylor Blau
2024-09-06 19:46   ` [PATCH v3 8/9] Makefile: allow specifying a SHA-1 for non-cryptographic uses Taylor Blau
2024-09-06 19:46   ` [PATCH v3 9/9] csum-file.c: use fast SHA-1 implementation when available Taylor Blau
2024-09-06 21:50   ` [PATCH v3 0/9] hash.h: support choosing a separate SHA-1 for non-cryptographic uses Junio C Hamano
2024-09-24 17:32 ` [PATCH v4 0/8] " Taylor Blau
2024-09-24 17:32   ` [PATCH v4 1/8] finalize_object_file(): check for name collision before renaming Taylor Blau
2024-09-25 17:02     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-09-24 17:32   ` [PATCH v4 2/8] finalize_object_file(): refactor unlink_or_warn() placement Taylor Blau
2024-09-24 17:32   ` [PATCH v4 3/8] finalize_object_file(): implement collision check Taylor Blau
2024-09-24 20:37     ` Jeff King
2024-09-24 21:59       ` Taylor Blau
2024-09-24 22:20         ` Jeff King
2024-09-25 18:06           ` Taylor Blau
2024-09-24 21:32     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-09-24 22:02       ` Taylor Blau
2024-09-24 17:32   ` [PATCH v4 4/8] pack-objects: use finalize_object_file() to rename pack/idx/etc Taylor Blau
2024-09-24 21:34     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-09-24 17:32   ` [PATCH v4 5/8] sha1: do not redefine `platform_SHA_CTX` and friends Taylor Blau
2024-09-24 17:32   ` [PATCH v4 6/8] hash.h: scaffolding for _unsafe hashing variants Taylor Blau
2024-09-24 17:32   ` [PATCH v4 7/8] Makefile: allow specifying a SHA-1 for non-cryptographic uses Taylor Blau
2024-09-24 17:32   ` [PATCH v4 8/8] csum-file.c: use unsafe SHA-1 implementation when available Taylor Blau
2024-09-24 20:52   ` [PATCH v4 0/8] hash.h: support choosing a separate SHA-1 for non-cryptographic uses Jeff King
2024-09-25 16:58   ` Elijah Newren
2024-09-25 17:11     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-09-25 17:22       ` Taylor Blau
2024-09-25 17:22     ` Taylor Blau [this message]
2024-09-26 15:22 ` [PATCH v5 " Taylor Blau
2024-09-26 15:22   ` [PATCH v5 1/8] finalize_object_file(): check for name collision before renaming Taylor Blau
2024-09-26 15:22   ` [PATCH v5 2/8] finalize_object_file(): refactor unlink_or_warn() placement Taylor Blau
2024-09-26 15:22   ` [PATCH v5 3/8] finalize_object_file(): implement collision check Taylor Blau
2024-09-26 15:22   ` [PATCH v5 4/8] pack-objects: use finalize_object_file() to rename pack/idx/etc Taylor Blau
2024-09-26 15:22   ` [PATCH v5 5/8] sha1: do not redefine `platform_SHA_CTX` and friends Taylor Blau
2024-09-26 15:22   ` [PATCH v5 6/8] hash.h: scaffolding for _unsafe hashing variants Taylor Blau
2024-09-26 15:22   ` [PATCH v5 7/8] Makefile: allow specifying a SHA-1 for non-cryptographic uses Taylor Blau
2024-09-26 15:22   ` [PATCH v5 8/8] csum-file.c: use unsafe SHA-1 implementation when available Taylor Blau
2024-09-26 22:47   ` [PATCH v5 0/8] hash.h: support choosing a separate SHA-1 for non-cryptographic uses Elijah Newren
2024-09-27  0:44     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-09-27  3:57   ` Jeff King

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