From: Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev>
To: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Cc: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
"Eric Auger" <eric.auger@redhat.com>,
eric.auger.pro@gmail.com, cohuck@redhat.com,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-arm@nongnu.org,
kvmarm@lists.linux.dev, richard.henderson@linaro.org,
alex.bennee@linaro.org, maz@kernel.org, sebott@redhat.com,
shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com, armbru@redhat.com,
abologna@redhat.com, jdenemar@redhat.com, shahuang@redhat.com,
mark.rutland@arm.com, philmd@linaro.org, pbonzini@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC 18/21] arm/cpu: Introduce a customizable kvm host cpu model
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2024 09:56:51 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zx_CU9eeQByANMRW@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFEAcA9w0mb5bcU8p+fScQony-=oqLmNurGWpnL_sBneQCzxUg@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, Oct 28, 2024 at 04:48:18PM +0000, Peter Maydell wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Oct 2024 at 16:35, Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 28, 2024 at 04:16:31PM +0000, Peter Maydell wrote:
> > > On Fri, 25 Oct 2024 at 14:24, Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Oct 25, 2024 at 03:18:25PM +0200, Eric Auger wrote:
> > > > > On 10/25/24 15:06, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> > > > > > Also, is this naming convention really the same one that users
> > > > > > will see when they look at /proc/cpuinfo to view features ? It
> > > > > No it is not. I do agree that the custom cpu model is very low level. It
> > > > > is very well suited to test all series turning ID regs as writable but
> > > > > this would require an extra layer that adapts /proc/cpuinfo feature
> > > > > level to this regid/field abstraction.
> > > > >
> > > > > In /cpu/proc you will see somethink like:
> > > > > Features : fp asimd evtstrm aes pmull sha1 sha2 crc32 atomics fphp
> > > > > asimdhp cpuid asimdrdm lrcpc dcpop asimddp
> > > >
> > > > Right, IMHO, this is the terminology that QEMU must use in user
> > > > facing APIs.
> > >
> > > /proc/cpuinfo's naming is rather weird for historical
> > > reasons (for instance there is only one FEAT_FP16 feature
> > > but cpuinfo lists "fphp" and "asimdhp" separately).
> >
> > There's plenty of wierd history in x86 too. In this
> > case I might suggest just picking one of the two
> > common names, and ignoring the other.
> >
> > If we really wanted to, we could alias the 2nd name
> > to the first, but its likely not worth the bother.
>
> Or we could use the standard set of architectural
> feature names, and not have the problem at all, and not
> have to document what we mean by our nonstandard names.
+1
There's existing documentation [*] for the standard feature names, which
provides:
- A short description of what the feature does
- Any dependencies a particular feature has (e.g.FEAT_VHE implies
FEAT_LSE, FEAT_Debugv8p1, and FEAT_AA64EL2)
- The register fields/values that are used to discover the feature.
This seems like the most user-friendly option...
[*]: https://developer.arm.com/documentation/109697/2024_09
--
Thanks,
Oliver
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-10-28 16:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-10-25 10:17 [RFC 00/21] kvm/arm: Introduce a customizable aarch64 KVM host model Eric Auger
2024-10-25 10:17 ` [RFC 01/21] kvm: kvm_get_writable_id_regs Eric Auger
2024-10-25 10:17 ` [RFC 02/21] arm/cpu: Add sysreg definitions in cpu-sysegs.h Eric Auger
2024-10-25 10:17 ` [RFC 03/21] arm/cpu: Store aa64isar0 into the idregs arrays Eric Auger
2024-10-25 10:17 ` [RFC 04/21] arm/cpu: Store aa64isar1/2 into the idregs array Eric Auger
2024-10-25 10:17 ` [RFC 05/21] arm/cpu: Store aa64drf0/1 " Eric Auger
2024-10-25 10:17 ` [RFC 06/21] arm/cpu: Store aa64mmfr0-3 " Eric Auger
2024-10-25 10:17 ` [RFC 07/21] arm/cpu: Store aa64drf0/1 " Eric Auger
2024-10-25 10:17 ` [RFC 08/21] arm/cpu: Store aa64smfr0 " Eric Auger
2024-10-25 10:17 ` [RFC 09/21] arm/cpu: Store id_isar0-7 " Eric Auger
2024-10-25 10:17 ` [RFC 10/21] arm/cpu: Store id_mfr0/1 " Eric Auger
2024-10-25 10:17 ` [RFC 11/21] arm/cpu: Store id_dfr0/1 " Eric Auger
2024-10-25 10:17 ` [RFC 12/21] arm/cpu: Store id_mmfr0-5 " Eric Auger
2024-10-25 10:17 ` [RFC 13/21] arm/cpu: Add infra to handle generated ID register definitions Eric Auger
2024-10-25 12:55 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-10-25 10:17 ` [RFC 14/21] arm/cpu: Add sysreg generation scripts Eric Auger
2024-10-25 17:05 ` Marc Zyngier
2024-11-04 13:33 ` Eric Auger
2024-10-25 10:17 ` [RFC 15/21] arm/cpu: Add generated files Eric Auger
2024-10-25 10:17 ` [RFC 16/21] arm/kvm: Allow reading all the writable ID registers Eric Auger
2024-10-25 10:17 ` [RFC 17/21] arm/kvm: write back modified ID regs to KVM Eric Auger
2024-10-25 10:17 ` [RFC 18/21] arm/cpu: Introduce a customizable kvm host cpu model Eric Auger
2024-10-25 13:06 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-10-25 13:18 ` Eric Auger
2024-10-25 13:23 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-10-28 16:00 ` Cornelia Huck
2024-10-28 16:15 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-10-28 16:16 ` Peter Maydell
2024-10-28 16:25 ` Cornelia Huck
2024-10-28 16:35 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-10-28 16:48 ` Peter Maydell
2024-10-28 16:56 ` Oliver Upton [this message]
2024-10-30 16:15 ` Cornelia Huck
2024-10-30 16:27 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-11-04 17:09 ` Eric Auger
2024-11-04 17:16 ` Peter Maydell
2024-11-04 18:15 ` Eric Auger
2024-10-28 17:04 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-11-04 14:27 ` Eric Auger
2024-11-11 14:29 ` Cornelia Huck
2024-11-12 16:30 ` Cornelia Huck
2024-11-12 18:28 ` Eric Auger
2024-11-29 15:10 ` Cornelia Huck
2024-11-29 15:42 ` Peter Maydell
2024-11-29 15:51 ` Cornelia Huck
2024-11-14 15:44 ` Peter Maydell
2024-10-25 10:17 ` [RFC 19/21] virt: Allow custom vcpu model in arm virt Eric Auger
2024-10-25 10:17 ` [RFC 20/21] arm-qmp-cmds: introspection for custom model Eric Auger
2024-10-25 10:17 ` [RFC 21/21] arm/cpu-features: Document custom vcpu model Eric Auger
2024-10-25 13:13 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-10-25 13:28 ` Eric Auger
2024-10-25 13:31 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-10-28 16:05 ` Cornelia Huck
2024-10-28 16:09 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-10-28 16:29 ` Cornelia Huck
2024-10-31 12:24 ` Kashyap Chamarthy
2024-10-31 12:59 ` Peter Maydell
2024-11-04 14:45 ` Eric Auger
2024-11-04 14:55 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-11-04 15:10 ` Cornelia Huck
2024-11-04 15:24 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-11-04 15:48 ` Cornelia Huck
2024-10-28 21:17 ` Kashyap Chamarthy
2024-11-04 15:34 ` Eric Auger
2024-11-04 16:30 ` Peter Maydell
2024-11-04 17:07 ` Eric Auger
2024-11-04 18:29 ` Kashyap Chamarthy
2024-10-25 12:49 ` [RFC 00/21] kvm/arm: Introduce a customizable aarch64 KVM host model Cornelia Huck
2024-10-25 14:51 ` Kashyap Chamarthy
2024-10-28 16:20 ` Cornelia Huck
2024-10-28 16:44 ` Peter Maydell
2024-11-04 15:52 ` Eric Auger
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