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From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: Steven Sistare <steven.sistare@oracle.com>
Cc: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Fabiano Rosas <farosas@suse.de>,
	Marcel Apfelbaum <marcel.apfelbaum@gmail.com>,
	Eduardo Habkost <eduardo@habkost.net>,
	Philippe Mathieu-Daude <philmd@linaro.org>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3 01/16] machine: anon-alloc option
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2024 09:32:45 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zy4hDcKMDcak8j_9@x1n> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <514e4919-45c1-48da-83fb-518fdc12161f@oracle.com>

On Fri, Nov 08, 2024 at 09:14:02AM -0500, Steven Sistare wrote:
> > Could anyone remind me why we can't simply set PRIVATE|SHARED all over the
> > place?
> > 
> > IMHO RAM_AUX is too hard for any new callers to know how to set.  It's much
> > easier when we already have SHARED, adding PRIVATE could be mostly natural,
> > then we can already avoid AUX due to checking !SHARED & !PRIVATE.
> > 
> > Basically, SHARED|PRIVATE then must come from an user request (QMP or
> > cmdline), otherwise the caller should always set none of them, implying
> > aux.
> > 
> > It still looks the best to me.
> 
> Our emails crossed. We could set PRIVATE|SHARED all over the place.  Nothing
> wrong with that solution. I have no preference, other than finishing.

The current AUX is exactly what I was picturing when I was replying v2, so
the four paths you listed here:

https://lore.kernel.org/qemu-devel/44b15731-0ee8-4e24-b4f5-0614bca594cb@oracle.com/

        Agreed, RAM_AUX is a clear solution.  I would set it in these
        functions:

                qemu_ram_alloc_resizeable
                memory_region_init_ram_nomigrate
                memory_region_init_rom_nomigrate
                memory_region_init_rom_device_nomigrate


That is what I listed previously:

https://lore.kernel.org/qemu-devel/Zv7C7MeVP2X8bEJU@x1n/

        I think that means below paths [1-4] are only relevant:

        qemu_ram_alloc
                memory_region_init_rom_device_nomigrate [1]
                memory_region_init_ram_flags_nomigrate
                        memory_region_init_ram_nomigrate    [2]
                        memory_region_init_rom_nomigrate    [3]
        qemu_ram_alloc_resizeable                   [4]

Except that if we don't want to risk using VM_SHARED unconditionally on
linux for aux, then we need to have a new flag, aka RAM_AUX or similar.

So I believe the list is at least correct.

I changed my mind because I noticed it will be non-trivial to know whether
one should set RAM_AUX when a new user needs to create some new ramblocks.

In that case, we need to define RAM_AUX properly.  One sane way to define
it is: "if the user didn't specify share or private property, please use
AUX", but then it'll overlap with RAM_SHARED / RAM_PRIVATE already, hence
redundant.

Yes, let's wait and see David's comment.

Thanks,

-- 
Peter Xu



  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-08 14:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-01 13:47 [PATCH V3 00/16] Live update: cpr-transfer Steve Sistare
2024-11-01 13:47 ` [PATCH V3 01/16] machine: anon-alloc option Steve Sistare
2024-11-01 14:06   ` Peter Xu
2024-11-04 10:39   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-04 10:45     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-04 17:38     ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-04 19:51       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-04 20:14         ` Peter Xu
2024-11-04 20:17           ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-04 20:41             ` Peter Xu
2024-11-04 20:15         ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-04 20:56           ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-04 21:36             ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-06 20:12               ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-06 20:41                 ` Peter Xu
2024-11-06 20:59                   ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-06 21:21                     ` Peter Xu
2024-11-07 14:03                       ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-07 13:05                     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-07 14:04                       ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-07 16:19                         ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-07 18:13                           ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-07 16:32                         ` Peter Xu
2024-11-07 16:38                           ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-07 17:48                             ` Peter Xu
2024-11-07 13:23                 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-07 16:02                   ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-07 16:26                     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-07 16:40                       ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-08 11:31                         ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-08 13:43                           ` Peter Xu
2024-11-08 14:14                             ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-08 14:32                               ` Peter Xu [this message]
2024-11-08 14:18                             ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-08 15:01                               ` Peter Xu
2024-11-08 13:56                           ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-08 14:20                             ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-08 14:37                               ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-08 14:54                                 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-08 15:07                                   ` Peter Xu
2024-11-08 15:09                                     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-08 15:15                                   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-01 13:47 ` [PATCH V3 02/16] migration: cpr-state Steve Sistare
2024-11-13 20:36   ` Peter Xu
2024-11-01 13:47 ` [PATCH V3 03/16] physmem: preserve ram blocks for cpr Steve Sistare
2024-11-01 13:47 ` [PATCH V3 04/16] hostmem-memfd: preserve " Steve Sistare
2024-11-01 13:47 ` [PATCH V3 05/16] migration: SCM_RIGHTS for QEMUFile Steve Sistare
2024-11-13 20:54   ` Peter Xu
2024-11-14 18:34     ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-01 13:47 ` [PATCH V3 06/16] migration: VMSTATE_FD Steve Sistare
2024-11-13 20:55   ` Peter Xu
2024-11-01 13:47 ` [PATCH V3 07/16] migration: cpr-transfer save and load Steve Sistare
2024-11-01 13:47 ` [PATCH V3 08/16] migration: cpr-uri parameter Steve Sistare
2024-11-01 13:47 ` [PATCH V3 09/16] migration: cpr-uri option Steve Sistare
2024-11-01 13:47 ` [PATCH V3 10/16] migration: split qmp_migrate Steve Sistare
2024-11-13 21:11   ` Peter Xu
2024-11-14 18:33     ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-01 13:47 ` [PATCH V3 11/16] migration: cpr-transfer mode Steve Sistare
2024-11-13 21:58   ` Peter Xu
2024-11-14 18:36     ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-14 19:04       ` Peter Xu
2024-11-19 19:50         ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-19 20:16           ` Peter Xu
2024-11-19 20:32             ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-19 20:51               ` Peter Xu
2024-11-19 21:03                 ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-19 21:29                   ` Peter Xu
2024-11-19 21:41                     ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-19 21:48                       ` Peter Xu
2024-11-19 21:51                         ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-20  9:38               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-11-20 16:12                 ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-20 16:26                   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-11-01 13:47 ` [PATCH V3 12/16] tests/migration-test: memory_backend Steve Sistare
2024-11-13 22:19   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-11-01 13:47 ` [PATCH V3 13/16] tests/qtest: defer connection Steve Sistare
2024-11-13 22:36   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-11-14 18:45     ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-13 22:53   ` Peter Xu
2024-11-14 18:31     ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-01 13:47 ` [PATCH V3 14/16] tests/migration-test: " Steve Sistare
2024-11-14 12:46   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-11-01 13:47 ` [PATCH V3 15/16] migration-test: cpr-transfer Steve Sistare
2024-11-01 13:47 ` [PATCH V3 16/16] migration: cpr-transfer documentation Steve Sistare
2024-11-13 22:02   ` Peter Xu
2024-11-14 18:31     ` Steven Sistare

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